M5 vs GTR

[M5Rlz]

Originally Posted by Warrior75

I hear you bro. Sometimes a car just grabs you and that's it. That's the way I feel and have felt about M6s for nearly a decade. I could have went a different route, Maserati, R8, gtr, whatever, but the M6 is my first choice and has been for a while. I feel like a young kid every time I see that ///M emblem, M6 emblem, and the beautiful ///M stitching. There is no other car that I want for a daily driver. I know there are better cars, but not for me.

I love the S63tu, and DCT, just not sure about the direction of BMW and if its something I forever want to be apart of. Had a terrible experience on like BMW number 9 or 10 with the 2017 X3 I got my mom, they lost the second spare key and a day later I went in and got grilled like I was trying to get a free key having to like prove after 2 days and 40 miles of ownership I'm not trying to get an extra key was beyond annoying after so many purchases.

[M6-Coupe]

Originally Posted by Warrior75

I hear you bro. Sometimes a car just grabs you and that's it. That's the way I feel and have felt about M6s for nearly a decade. I could have went a different route, Maserati, R8, gtr, whatever, but the M6 is my first choice and has been for a while. I feel like a young kid every time I see that ///M emblem, M6 emblem, and the beautiful ///M stitching. There is no other car that I want for a daily driver. I know there are better cars, but not for me.

Agree with you. F1x M6 is the most beautiful and the best BMW ever made.
I miss her every single day
Believe me or not while I was driving M6, I really felt driving super carl ...

[Warrior75]

That's really unfortunate to hear 335iRlz. Some of the dealerships can be really foolish at times.

I hear you M6-Coupe (fixed lol) . Those 8 years without even my E64 M6 were terrible. Now that I'm spoiled with the F12... I don't even want to think about being without her. Shit, even today, I'm at work, and my baby is with the mechanic I miss her not being down stairs!!! Seems silly, but normally I take a ride to the store with my car just because I want to drive her, but now I can't and I feel lost. Lol. Seems ridiculous, but it's true. I never want to be without my bimmer again.

[M6-Coupe]

Originally Posted by Warrior75

That's really unfortunate to hear 335iRlz. Some of the dealerships can be really foolish at times.

I hear you George. Those 8 years without even my E64 M6 were terrible. Now that I'm spoiled with the F12... I don't even want to think about being without her. Shit, even today, I'm at work, and my baby is with the mechanic I miss her not being down stairs!!! Seems silly, but normally I take a ride to the store with my car just because I want to drive her, but now I can't and I feel lost. Lol. Seems ridiculous, but it's true. I never want to be without my bimmer again.

Yeah it's true... I recall all the bad days my car was in dealer for service ...
Who is George BTW?

[Warrior75]

Sorry, looked quick, m6 beast m6 coupe My bad. Lol

[M5Rlz]

Originally Posted by allmotor_2000

Haven't lost to any GTR's with stock internals yet no matter what mods. FBO GTR on E85 probably traps 136-138MPH in the 1/4

The fully built (1000-1200whp) GTRs run about 8-10MPH quicker in the 1/2 mile and they beat me.

The crazy ones with billet blocks etc are on a different planet.

Most stock motor guys are unwilling to push their cars hard enough. I was traping high 140s on GT800 turbo kit on stock motor, 710whp and 650wtrq on a mustang dyno. Might have given you a run for your money on that setup.


Yeah the 1000-1300 was cool 2 years ago when I did it. Now its a daily driver easy peasey safe amount, 1600 with 35 type spool is kinda the new cool, but from the people I talk to privately anything over 1500whp and a GTR becomes like any other racecar, and you just will break stuff. Might be a crank, an axle, etc. although some get lucky but mostly around there you start seeing problems

[M5averick]

I've owned both... I recently had a 2015 GTR FBO (Intakes, upgraded fuel pumps, injectors, catless downpipes, midpipe, port matched upper and lower intake manifold) running e85 with flex fuel tuning - tuned by a very reputable tuner. You can see my current mods for the F10 M5 in my signature.

I can verify that the GTR will stomp the M5 in the quarter mile and from a stop or very low speed roll at my current mod level. In addition to running a faster time, the GTR will also trap a higher speed in the quarter due to being able to put down nearly all the power immediately and ALL THE WAY down the track.

That all said, 100-150mph times or higher rolls and speeds the M5 is faster. Like it or not, it is what it is. I've owned both. I've measured both. Both cars are awesome cars but they have their own strengths and weaknesses. For all around performance the GTR wins. For practicality and a serious highway car the M5 is the winner. I will also say that the M5 is sloppy in handling when you compare it directly to the GTR. You really can't even compare in this department when pushed to the limit GTR is faster around a track.

Disclourse: This is my personal experience for a basic FBO GTR running e85 and a Bolt-on M5 with a few gallons of E85 mixed with 93 and a clutch upgrade. There are also exceptions and we aren't talking about really built up M5s or GTRs. Really built up GTRs... NOTHING else can really touch them.

As others have stated, the GTR isn't really a direct competitor to the M5.

[IANNUZZI]

Forget the GTR, it’s a much better performance car than the F10 M5. AN RS3 at a little more than half the price can easily beat an M5 at the strip and on the street, an M5 would need a perfect launch to keep up with it... that’s saying A LOT

[M5Rlz]

Originally Posted by M5averick

I've owned both... I recently had a 2015 GTR FBO (Intakes, upgraded fuel pumps, injectors, catless downpipes, midpipe, port matched upper and lower intake manifold) running e85 with flex fuel tuning - tuned by a very reputable tuner. You can see my current mods for the F10 M5 in my signature.

I can verify that the GTR will stomp the M5 in the quarter mile and from a stop or very low speed roll at my current mod level. In addition to running a faster time, the GTR will also trap a higher speed in the quarter due to being able to put down nearly all the power immediately and ALL THE WAY down the track.

That all said, 100-150mph times or higher rolls and speeds the M5 is faster. Like it or not, it is what it is. I've owned both. I've measured both. Both cars are awesome cars but they have their own strengths and weaknesses. For all around performance the GTR wins. For practicality and a serious highway car the M5 is the winner. I will also say that the M5 is sloppy in handling when you compare it directly to the GTR. You really can't even compare in this department when pushed to the limit GTR is faster around a track.

Disclourse: This is my personal experience for a basic FBO GTR running e85 and a Bolt-on M5 with a few gallons of E85 mixed with 93 and a clutch upgrade. There are also exceptions and we aren't talking about really built up M5s or GTRs. Really built up GTRs... NOTHING else can really touch them.

As others have stated, the GTR isn't really a direct competitor to the M5.

My assessment granted I took it further than you my car was running 9.4 on low boost and Put 20k miles on it with big boy power.

They're totally different cars, the success of the M5 is that it can compete with so much, but usually when a car can compete out of its class is when it comes with the "its better than"

This is a problem GTRs face when going up against real american race cars, yeah GTRs are continuing the push into the 6s with real race drag cars, but they still cant compete with the big american cars at WCF this weekend that will run insane drag times.

Originally Posted by IANNUZZI

Forget the GTR, it’s a much better performance car than the F10 M5. AN RS3 at a little more than half the price can easily beat an M5 at the strip and on the street, an M5 would need a perfect launch to keep up with it... that’s saying A LOT

Still can't beat picking up a used 13/14 for pennies, throwing a tune and downpipes on it and kicking the sh!t out of all but the fastest cars lol

[M5averick]

Originally Posted by 335iRlz

My assessment granted I took it further than you my car was running 9.4 on low boost and Put 20k miles on it with big boy power.

They're totally different cars, the success of the M5 is that it can compete with so much, but usually when a car can compete out of its class is when it comes with the "its better than"

This is a problem GTRs face when going up against real american race cars, yeah GTRs are continuing the push into the 6s with real race drag cars, but they still cant compete with the big american cars at WCF this weekend that will run insane drag times.

Agreed.

[IANNUZZI]

Originally Posted by 335iRlz

My assessment granted I took it further than you my car was running 9.4 on low boost and Put 20k miles on it with big boy power.

They're totally different cars, the success of the M5 is that it can compete with so much, but usually when a car can compete out of its class is when it comes with the "its better than"

This is a problem GTRs face when going up against real american race cars, yeah GTRs are continuing the push into the 6s with real race drag cars, but they still cant compete with the big american cars at WCF this weekend that will run insane drag times.



Still can't beat picking up a used 13/14 for pennies, throwing a tune and downpipes on it and kicking the sh!t out of all but the fastest cars lol

I think you can, a tune only rs3 ran 10.5, quicker than most modded m5s, plus it has the advantage of awd....

Remember it’s never a bargain if you don’t want one , and I have thrown in the towel with the F10 M5, too many situations where it can get beat by lesser cars.... lol

[Phatcat]

Originally Posted by IANNUZZI

Forget the GTR, it’s a much better performance car than the F10 M5. AN RS3 at a little more than half the price can easily beat an M5 at the strip and on the street, an M5 would need a perfect launch to keep up with it... that’s saying A LOT

I won't race anybody in my M5 unless it's a rolling race, it's hard to launch the M5 consistently and against those AWD cars you will just embarrass yourself most of the time.

On the other hand I will race against anybody in my P100D from a dead stop lol.

[momos750]

Originally Posted by 335iRlz

Still can't beat picking up a used 13/14 for pennies, throwing a tune and downpipes on it and kicking the sh!t out of all but the fastest cars lol

What kind of prices are you seeing for 13/14's and newer? I did a search and don't see any for pennies... lol

[M5Rlz]

Originally Posted by momos750

What kind of prices are you seeing for 13/14's and newer? I did a search and don't see any for pennies... lol

I'm guessing you're looking at cars dot com or something but thats not realistic of how tough the market is to sell a car as we see daily on the GTR groups when people list cars for sale on Facebook

You couldn't get one stock 3 years ago for under 85-88k I lucked out and got mine through a wholesale deal for like 78k....

Now you have FBO 2015 cars with 15-25k miles going for low 60s


The cars are being given away on the groups cause nobodies buying them


Alpha 10 car that has multiple 8.9 passes and AMS/Shep build track edition limited number is like 90k lol

my buddies 2015 white 27k miles, FBO e85 car, with 6k HREs sold for 64k and the bank told the kid given the car they'd only approve 62k of it lol

[momos750]

Originally Posted by 335iRlz

I'm guessing you're looking at cars dot com or something but thats not realistic of how tough the market is to sell a car as we see daily on the GTR groups when people list cars for sale on Facebook

You couldn't get one stock 3 years ago for under 85-88k I lucked out and got mine through a wholesale deal for like 78k....

Now you have FBO 2015 cars with 15-25k miles going for low 60s


The cars are being given away on the groups cause nobodies buying them


Alpha 10 car that has multiple 8.9 passes and AMS/Shep build track edition limited number is like 90k lol

my buddies 2015 white 27k miles, FBO e85 car, with 6k HREs sold for 64k and the bank told the kid given the car they'd only approve 62k of it lol

Thanks for the info!

[M5Rlz]

Originally Posted by momos750

Thanks for the info!

https://www.jetautogroup.com/2014_Ni..._270016537.veh

One of the best GTR sellers on in the groups, with a tremendous reputation, thats his personal dealership/ car...


If you're seriously shopping. Cars probably got 60k+ in it on-top of being a limited edition track edition, and being blue (I think only reds were less made)

[Lowflight]

Originally Posted by momos750

Thanks for the info!

Nexus Auto Group in GA keeps nicer GTR examples


Whichever year you get, it will be the fastest car ever built

#nocarfasterthanGTREVER

[IANNUZZI]

Originally Posted by Lowflight

Nexus Auto Group in GA keeps nicer GTR examples


Whichever year you get, it will be the fastest car ever built

#nocarfasterthanGTREVER

Especially not the M5

[Lowflight]

Originally Posted by IANNUZZI

Especially not the M5

Calm your tits captain butthurt. Lol

[IANNUZZI]

Originally Posted by M5averick

I've owned both... I recently had a 2015 GTR FBO (Intakes, upgraded fuel pumps, injectors, catless downpipes, midpipe, port matched upper and lower intake manifold) running e85 with flex fuel tuning - tuned by a very reputable tuner. You can see my current mods for the F10 M5 in my signature.

I can verify that the GTR will stomp the M5 in the quarter mile and from a stop or very low speed roll at my current mod level. In addition to running a faster time, the GTR will also trap a higher speed in the quarter due to being able to put down nearly all the power immediately and ALL THE WAY down the track.

That all said, 100-150mph times or higher rolls and speeds the M5 is faster. Like it or not, it is what it is. I've owned both. I've measured both. Both cars are awesome cars but they have their own strengths and weaknesses. For all around performance the GTR wins. For practicality and a serious highway car the M5 is the winner. I will also say that the M5 is sloppy in handling when you compare it directly to the GTR. You really can't even compare in this department when pushed to the limit GTR is faster around a track.

Disclourse: This is my personal experience for a basic FBO GTR running e85 and a Bolt-on M5 with a few gallons of E85 mixed with 93 and a clutch upgrade. There are also exceptions and we aren't talking about really built up M5s or GTRs. Really built up GTRs... NOTHING else can really touch them.

As others have stated, the GTR isn't really a direct competitor to the M5.

Of course the GTR is the better sports car it was designed that way, whereas the M5 is just a 5-series with some upgrades.

[M5Rlz]

Originally Posted by IANNUZZI

Especially not the M5

Leave lowflight alone he's just read up on how to troll for dummies and is attempting his first troll

[IANNUZZI]

Originally Posted by 335iRlz

Leave lowflight alone he's just read up on how to troll for dummies and is attempting his first troll

LOL - UNSUCCESSFUL TROLL