2014 M5 Competition

KKS53 · 08-11-2013, 12:28 AM

I picked up my new 2014 with Competition Package today and am thrilled with it but a little confused.

My confusion is with respect to the brakes and specifically the ceramic brakes. I was under the impression that the CP came with ceramic brakes which are obviously identified by gold color calipers. The ads and promotions for the Competition Package feature ceramic brakes.

My car with CP has the regular Blue M5 calipers - no ceramic brakes. Am I mistaken that the Competition Package comes with the ceramic brakes?

Appreciate any insight on this. Thank you

dannyperez_2 · 08-11-2013, 12:45 AM

carbon ceramic breaks are a completely different option to add for almost $10,000. so no competition package does not come with the cc brakes

wisesoul · 08-11-2013, 02:39 AM

Wow, what a surprise that must've been..The CC brakes are extra, but if you did spec out the brakes, that's a different story.

Spinny02 · 08-11-2013, 08:39 AM

There was one review that said they were included but that was not accurate. ZCP= comp pkg . 2NK = cc brakes. Sorry for your surprise.

stealth.pilot · 08-11-2013, 09:19 AM

Always been separate options in the USA. Surprised you didn't realize that given that under list of options they are separate and CCB are 10k. Obviously if CCB are 10k they would not be included in the 7k CP.

luvthestck · 08-11-2013, 09:29 AM

Agree with all of the above posts. What surprises me is that you missed that detail before ordering such an expensive car.Never forget the we have a very friendly and helping online community here .Use the forums for everything.But all is not lost.I hope the the comp package has enough tweaks to satisfy your needs.

ColdList · 08-11-2013, 09:38 AM

Always been an option here in the states. Hope that didn't disappoint you when you picked up the car. There are endless discussion about benefit (unsprung mass-cornering, fade, etc.). I have studied this to the nth degree and if ti makes you feel better, I prob would not order them anyway unless tracking heavily. The benefits on the street, while there, are not anything to write home to mom about. Enjoy your beautiful car. Use the $9K to book a nice vacation-lol!

BC87 · 08-11-2013, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by stealth.pilot

Always been separate options in the USA. Surprised you didn't realize that given that under list of options they are separate and CCB are 10k. Obviously if CCB are 10k they would not be included in the 7k CP.

+1

KKS53 · 08-11-2013, 06:52 PM

I guess the fact that almost every piece of advertising from bmw for the CP features gold calipers AND the launch video from BMW also mentions the brakes threw me off.

Does the non-US version of CP include CCB?

I appreciate all the responses and am not remotely bothered by my misinformation - no regret whatsoever and I'm thrilled with the car.

One other question on the CP - is the top speed still limited to 155?

mainly · 08-11-2013, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ColdList

Always been an option here in the states. Hope that didn't disappoint you when you picked up the car. There are endless discussion about benefit (unsprung mass-cornering, fade, etc.). I have studied this to the nth degree and if ti makes you feel better, I prob would not order them anyway unless tracking heavily. The benefits on the street, while there, are not anything to write home to mom about. Enjoy your beautiful car. Use the $9K to book a nice vacation-lol!

plus the Calipers on the CC brakes look stupid, with that frosted "Crayola" yellow color.

darkrabbit · 08-13-2013, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ColdList

Always been an option here in the states. Hope that didn't disappoint you when you picked up the car. There are endless discussion about benefit (unsprung mass-cornering, fade, etc.). I have studied this to the nth degree and if ti makes you feel better, I prob would not order them anyway unless tracking heavily. The benefits on the street, while there, are not anything to write home to mom about. Enjoy your beautiful car. Use the $9K to book a nice vacation-lol!

This. I wouldn't feel too bad, their usefulness on the street is nada and their usefulness on track is even more questionable considering the aftermarket options out there that will blow it out of the water.

Bokke · 08-13-2013, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Ksingh53

I picked up my new 2014 with Competition Package today and am thrilled with it but a little confused.

How about some picks of the CP with blue brakes!

KKS53 · 08-13-2013, 08:00 AM

Sure - will happily post some over the next few days after I get some quality pics! Stay tuned....

Lual · 08-13-2013, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Ksingh53

I guess the fact that almost every piece of advertising from bmw for the CP features gold calipers AND the launch video from BMW also mentions the brakes threw me off.

Does the non-US version of CP include CCB?

I appreciate all the responses and am not remotely bothered by my misinformation - no regret whatsoever and I'm thrilled with the car.

One other question on the CP - is the top speed still limited to 155?

No, not in Switzerland neither in Germany I guess. They are optional and not cheap at all.
With the money you saved, you can fill a few fuel tanks or pay some years of the car insurance...

JOHNBMWM5 · 08-13-2013, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Ksingh53

I guess the fact that almost every piece of advertising from bmw for the CP features gold calipers AND the launch video from BMW also mentions the brakes threw me off.

Does the non-US version of CP include CCB?

I appreciate all the responses and am not remotely bothered by my misinformation - no regret whatsoever and I'm thrilled with the car.

One other question on the CP - is the top speed still limited to 155?

No CCP brakes are a separate order from CP here in the UK and cost £7000+
Not worth the money here at all.
Tracking such a large barge is frankly pointless.

Goranot · 08-15-2014, 08:22 AM

Does that mean the standard F10 M5 and competition Brakes are exactly the same as Bmw are replacing mine but with competition/ performance ones which they said are supposedly much better

JOHNBMWM5 · 08-15-2014, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Goranot

Does that mean the standard F10 M5 and competition Brakes are exactly the same as Bmw are replacing mine but with competition/ performance ones which they said are supposedly much better

Never heard of these so called "competition brakes" must be the latest pads IMO.

Goranot · 08-15-2014, 08:37 AM

Presume so..can't complain as it's being done under warranty..btw John did you get your car remapped and if so by who? .. DMS?
Any noticeable difference

JOHNBMWM5 · 08-15-2014, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Goranot

Presume so..can't complain as it's being done under warranty..btw John did you get your car remapped and if so by who? .. DMS?
Any noticeable difference

Nope car being pxed in October for a M6 GC competition Pack, car is being built week 38.

JOHNBMWM5 · 08-15-2014, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ColdList

Always been an option here in the states. Hope that didn't disappoint you when you picked up the car. There are endless discussion about benefit (unsprung mass-cornering, fade, etc.). I have studied this to the nth degree and if ti makes you feel better, I prob would not order them anyway unless tracking heavily. The benefits on the street, while there, are not anything to write home to mom about. Enjoy your beautiful car. Use the $9K to book a nice vacation-lol!

Seconded, my mate has them on his, and he wishes he did not waste the money on them, no road benefits at all , so he says.

Bro-m5 · 08-15-2014, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by KKS53

I guess the fact that almost every piece of advertising from bmw for the CP features gold calipers AND the launch video from BMW also mentions the brakes threw me off.

Does the non-US version of CP include CCB?

I appreciate all the responses and am not remotely bothered by my misinformation - no regret whatsoever and I'm thrilled with the car.

One other question on the CP - is the top speed still limited to 155?

My 2014 cp topped out at 268 kph or just over 166 mph on ED in Germany. Not sure BMW changes the limiter when it hits the states.

eleven11 · 08-15-2014, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by jaym3smg

This. I wouldn't feel too bad, their usefulness on the street is nada and their usefulness on track is even more questionable considering the aftermarket options out there that will blow it out of the water.

Genuinely curious, what aftermarket options would you consider vastly superior to those from BMW? The BMW CCB are supplied by Brembo SGL.

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KKS53 Enlisted Member 3 Rep 30 Posts Drives: '13 M3 Lime Rock '14 M5 Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: New Jersey iTrader: (0)	I guess the fact that almost every piece of advertising from bmw for the CP features gold calipers AND the launch video from BMW also mentions the brakes threw me off. Does the non-US version of CP include CCB? I appreciate all the responses and am not remotely bothered by my misinformation - no regret whatsoever and I'm thrilled with the car. One other question on the CP - is the top speed still limited to 155?
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Goranot First Lieutenant 37 Rep 325 Posts Drives: Bmw m5 Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Birmingham iTrader: (0)	Presume so..can't complain as it's being done under warranty..btw John did you get your car remapped and if so by who? .. DMS? Any noticeable difference
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