My 2014 Audi RS7- Short Review and Pics

[krisnetaji]

Hows the steering feel with the Dynamic Package?
Im about to get one. Im ordering one with the dynamic Package, Exclusive interior package, Carbon fiber PKG, B&O, Alcantara Headligner. Mine is a little under $150K. Im leasing the car and payment was better than i expected. Also looking at the Panamera Turbo but lease is crazy. Also not wild about the looks.

Im coming from a F10 M5 and a 991S. I can't drive one as my local dealer doesn't have one.

[Vic55]

Originally Posted by 14M5

Hows the steering feel with the Dynamic Package?
Im about to get one. Im ordering one with the dynamic Package, Exclusive interior package, Carbon fiber PKG, B&O, Alcantara Headligner. Mine is a little under $150K. Im leasing the car and payment was better than i expected. Also looking at the Panamera Turbo but lease is crazy. Also not wild about the looks.

Im coming from a F10 M5 and a 991S. I can't drive one as my local dealer doesn't have one.

The dynamic package doesnt create any unique steering options that isnt already on the car. The RS7 has three steering settings: Dynamic, Auto, and Comfort. These options come with any RS7 and the Dynamic section is the same to me whether the car has springs or air suspension; its very tight and almost too numb. I run my car in Auto setup and its the best option of the three but the AWD understeer does create a less than perfect steering feel in any of the settings. That being said, I felt that in my back to back comparos of air and spring cars with Auto steering setup that the spring car had just a slight bit more understeer in higher speed turns and sharp corners.

Congrats on the car sounds incredible- I opted for the more simple standard interior and waiver of the B and O/Alcantara headliner. But I dont keep my cars all too long so it was more about the Dynamic Package and how it handled as the air car was too fluffy.

[krisnetaji]

Originally Posted by Vic55

The dynamic package doesnt create any unique steering options that isnt already on the car. The RS7 has three steering settings: Dynamic, Auto, and Comfort. These options come with any RS7 and the Dynamic section is the same to me whether the car has springs or air suspension; its very tight and almost too numb. I run my car in Auto setup and its the best option of the three but the AWD understeer does create a less than perfect steering feel in any of the settings. That being said, I felt that in my back to back comparos of air and spring cars with Auto steering setup that the spring car had just a slight bit more understeer in higher speed turns and sharp corners.

Congrats on the car sounds incredible- I opted for the more simple standard interior and waiver of the B and O/Alcantara headliner. But I dont keep my cars all too long so it was more about the Dynamic Package and how it handled as the air car was too fluffy.

Im getting okay lease numbers on the car. $2100/Month for 36 Month Term. Im Prepaying the lease up front since Texas Collects Sales Tax on the Value of the vehicle and get a tax break on a one-pay. Still not sure on the RS7. I don't keep my cars that long also and i can get a $120K M5 for $1500/Month for 24 Months. Hard Decision for me to make. Although i feel I'm getting a nicer car with the RS7 i don't think its worth the extra $$. Im also considering a Panamera Turbo but lease is $3K a month on a 36 month term for a $160K Car. For Leasing Purposes I think the M5 is the way to go.

[M5Rlz]

Originally Posted by 14M5

Im getting okay lease numbers on the car. $2100/Month for 36 Month Term. Im Prepaying the lease up front since Texas Collects Sales Tax on the Value of the vehicle and get a tax break on a one-pay. Still not sure on the RS7. I don't keep my cars that long also and i can get a $120K M5 for $1500/Month for 24 Months. Hard Decision for me to make. Although i feel I'm getting a nicer car with the RS7 i don't think its worth the extra $$. Im also considering a Panamera Turbo but lease is $3K a month on a 36 month term for a $160K Car. For Leasing Purposes I think the M5 is the way to go.

I don't know that the RS7 is that much better lol... Especially if you throw a Stage 1 BMS on...

[M6-Coupe]

Originally Posted by 335iRlz

I don't know that the RS7 is that much better lol... Especially if you throw a Stage 1 BMS on...

Kid, go back to your new toy which is designed for your age
(You know I'm kidding you boy)

[M5Rlz]

Originally Posted by M6-Coupe

Kid, go back to your new toy which is designed for your age
(You know I'm kidding you boy)

lol I want an m6 already, I want to see the CP package [I knew I shoulda spent the few exta k, to get it over the m5... I'm such a cheap ass lol]. I already got 3k on the m4

I'm on the z06 wait list hopefully they won't try to rape me on that price.

[M6-Coupe]

Originally Posted by 335iRlz

lol I want an m6 already, I want to see the CP package [I knew I shoulda spent the few exta k, to get it over the m5... I'm such a cheap ass lol]. I already got 3k on the m4

I'm on the z06 wait list hopefully they won't try to rape me on that price.

kid, M6 is too much for your age
Engoy more sport cars for now. You have enough time in future to drive luxury-sporty cars... and I know you had M5
BTW, how is the life going with M4? which mods you did so far?

[M5Rlz]

Originally Posted by M6-Coupe

kid, M6 is too much for your age
Engoy more sport cars for now. You have enough time in future to drive luxury-sporty cars... and I know you had M5
BTW, how is the life going with M4? which mods you did so far?

Just jb4 for the moment and exhaust work on the stock unit.

I need a s600 and really be put out to pasture

[M6-Coupe]

Originally Posted by 335iRlz

Just jb4 for the moment and exhaust work on the stock unit.

I need a s600 and really be put out to pasture

Then I need to challenge your M4 with my M6 lol...
Too bad you are not local
BTW, what is s600???

[Vic55]

Im tuning the RS7 Monday---- it will be a high 120's trapper for sure....some guys run 130 with favorable DA.

[cjackson1906]

Originally Posted by Vic55

Im tuning the RS7 Monday---- it will be a high 120's trapper for sure....some guys run 130 with favorable DA.

Are you doing the APR tune?

[M5Rlz]

Originally Posted by Vic55

Im tuning the RS7 Monday---- it will be a high 120's trapper for sure....some guys run 130 with favorable DA.

Our local guy was doing 130s on back to back runs in the high 80s... 10.5s never above 10.69... Insane.

[Vic55]

Originally Posted by cjackson1906

Are you doing the APR tune?

GIAC... local to me and they have tuned my Porsche's too.

[Vic55]

Originally Posted by Vic55

GIAC... local to me and they have tuned my Porsche's too.

The tune is in!!!!!! Oh lord its every bit as good as advertised and then some. I pulled both resonators (the RS7 has mid and rear resonators) and the exhaust is, frankly, bad ass. I only have about 15 miles on the tune and will post thoughts after I drive the car further. My initial thoughts are this car, tuned, is now faster than my tuned Turbo S or very damn close to it. This is where the ZF tranny comes into play with the extra tq bumps along with the AWD for stupid launches.

Here is a dyno (not my car) of the same tune at GIAC where I got mine done. I hate that Cali only has 91 octane readily available and remember these are AWD gains so the bumps are even more impressive.

On 91 octane fuel, peak to peak performance gains are measured at 80-85 wheel HP and 130-135 ft lbs wheel torque. In some areas of the power band, gains are as high as 121 wheel HP and 145 ft lbs wheel torque.

[Schnell_1]

Originally Posted by Vic55

My initial thoughts are this car, tuned, is now faster than my tuned Turbo S or very damn close to it.

From a 0-60 standpoint? You could very well be sub 3 seconds in that metric?

If there is one purported (small) fault on this car, it's the small displacement engine and consequent turbo lag. What are your thoughts on this post-tune?

[Vic55]

Originally Posted by Schnell_1

From a 0-60 standpoint? You could very well be sub 3 seconds in that metric?

If there is one purported (small) fault on this car, it's the small displacement engine and consequent turbo lag. What are your thoughts on this post-tune?

Yes the 0-60 romp could be under 3 with the perfect take off.

Have you driven an RS7 in the correct modes? In D-S mode (no tune) there is minimal turbo lag if any. As you know I owned two S63tu cars and they don't have lag either but I never felt like the RS7 did as well, pre tune. In fact my Turbo S clearly has more lag and it has a smaller displacement at 3.8... The RS7 does have an inferior tranny when it comes to shift times which plays a role too but like I mentioned above I only have a few miles on it so I want more perspective.

[M6-Coupe]

Originally Posted by Vic55

The tune is in!!!!!! Oh lord its every bit as good as advertised and then some. I pulled both resonators (the RS7 has mid and rear resonators) and the exhaust is, frankly, bad ass. I only have about 15 miles on the tune and will post thoughts after I drive the car further. My initial thoughts are this car, tuned, is now faster than my tuned Turbo S or very damn close to it. This is where the ZF tranny comes into play with the extra tq bumps along with the AWD for stupid launches.

Here is a dyno (not my car) of the same tune at GIAC where I got mine done. I hate that Cali only has 91 octane readily available and remember these are AWD gains so the bumps are even more impressive.

On 91 octane fuel, peak to peak performance gains are measured at 80-85 wheel HP and 130-135 ft lbs wheel torque. In some areas of the power band, gains are as high as 121 wheel HP and 145 ft lbs wheel torque.

wow, huge improvement... Congratulation!

[Schnell_1]

Originally Posted by Vic55

Yes the 0-60 romp could be under 3 with the perfect take off.

Have you driven an RS7 in the correct modes? In D-S mode (no tune) there is minimal turbo lag if any. As you know I owned two S63tu cars and they don't have lag either but I never felt like the RS7 did as well, pre tune. In fact my Turbo S clearly has more lag and it has a smaller displacement at 3.8... The RS7 does have an inferior tranny when it comes to shift times which plays a role too but like I mentioned above I only have a few miles on it so I want more perspective.

I actually haven't driven the RS7 yet. Some journalists and pundits have remarked on the existence of turbo lag with the 4.0 TT, but I prefer feedback/data from adept owners. The car possesses dominating performance, and the real impetus for my questions is that this is the same engine in the Bentley GT V8 S, and that car is an animal as well. So much so that the 4.0 TT version is faster than the W12 in 0-60 and the 1/4. My interest in that model is piqued, so I was looking for some insight on the engine dynamics before I moved further forward. Turbo lag is really frustrating, and some car models seem to be more egregious offenders than others. I agree that most upper echelon performance cars seemed to have found an elixir for turbo lag, especially with the addition of software/tuning. On a side note I did feel a little lag on the S63tu when my software was reset to OEM parameters, but when tweaked it's as sharp as an N/A engine IMO...

[Vic55]

Originally Posted by Schnell_1

I actually haven't driven the RS7 yet. Some journalists and pundits have remarked on the existence of turbo lag with the 4.0 TT, but I prefer feedback/data from adept owners. The car possesses dominating performance, and the real impetus for my questions is that this is the same engine in the Bentley GT V8 S, and that car is an animal as well. So much so that the 4.0 TT version is faster than the W12 in 0-60 and the 1/4. My interest in that model is piqued, so I was looking for some insight on the engine dynamics before I moved further forward. Turbo lag is really frustrating, and some car models seem to be more egregious offenders than others. I agree that most upper echelon performance cars seemed to have found an elixir for turbo lag, especially with the addition of software/tuning. On a side note I did feel a little lag on the S63tu when my software was reset to OEM parameters, but when tweaked it's as sharp as an N/A engine IMO...

The only way to know is if you drive it The car has numerous tweaks over its younger brother (S7) with the same 4.0 set up. Based on my personal Turbo experience, the size of the turbos coupled with electronics has been the culprit of lag. To me, most people dont feel turbo lag, they feel acceleration lag because they dont know how to drive the car or push it correctly.

Im sure there are few local dealers that will accomodate a test drive. Make sure to drive in Dynamic mode and set your steering and suspension to Auto. The gear selector needs to be placed in D and then pulled back one more time to get D-S mode. This S mode makes a huge difference.

[M5stallion]

How much boost is this 4.0l tt making with upgraded ecu on pump? It has less aggressive cams and .4L less displacement than f10 m5 yet achieves supercar performance numbers....

[Vic55]

Just found this wet airstrip run(s) with a Panny Turbo S:

[SocalBM]

Don't mean to bump this thread with a somewhat off-topic question, but (I will, lol); Why do Audi's price so poorly compared to BMWs? I priced out the M5 I want with Dave Aviles - new build - and with a starting MSRP equal to the RS7 I priced out, the monthly cost was nearly $500 less for the BM. Same out-the-door on each. Is this normal?

Anyway, the RS7 has a lot of appeal for a daily and the M5 I was thinking of getting would be replaced by the Audi meaning the wife could get a 2013 M6 we have within arms reach (thing has like, 5500 miles and is spotless, for $80k).