Whats the 1/4 Record for an e60 or f10 m5?

[ibd2328]

Originally Posted by allmotor_2000

BTW, with my supercharged E60, this was probably the quickest I could get it to (vs. full DINAN FBO M5 with Evolve Tune + Long-Tube Headers).

yes.. all you hear is my car on the right

Very nice. Mind me asking what boost level and what were your IATS?

[TheHouseWon]

^omg!!

[allmotor_2000]

Originally Posted by ibd2328

Very nice. Mind me asking what boost level and what were your IATS?

6psi. IAT's were horrible even with the Liquid-Air IC. The ESS design isn't efficient (they may have changed it since). I ran open head-light to get colder air into the S/C inlet which helped significantly. IAT's were 125+

[allmotor_2000]

Originally Posted by TheHouseWon

^omg!!

I ran header-back (removed exhaust completely)...

[ibd2328]

Originally Posted by allmotor_2000

I ran header-back (removed exhaust completely)...

I have custom headers from george conroy of pittsburgh and its ran catless to the turbos mounted pre-eisman exhaust.

Any of you guys using e85 or meth? I may set the gates to 7 psi each on some c16 and see how my iats do on the dyno tomorrow before I go to the track.

Very impressive cars gentlemen. Seems like after about 60 you pulled trains on that dinan car. Was it a 5.8 ?

[ibd2328]

Originally Posted by allmotor_2000

6psi. IAT's were horrible even with the Liquid-Air IC. The ESS design isn't efficient (they may have changed it since). I ran open head-light to get colder air into the S/C inlet which helped significantly. IAT's were 125+

Any 1/4 mile times with that setup? Yeah, 125 is getting up there with 12:1 cr

[allmotor_2000]

Originally Posted by ibd2328

I have custom headers from george conroy of pittsburgh and its ran catless to the turbos mounted pre-eisman exhaust.

Any of you guys using e85 or meth? I may set the gates to 7 psi each on some c16 and see how my iats do on the dyno tomorrow before I go to the track.

Very impressive cars gentlemen. Seems like after about 60 you pulled trains on that dinan car. Was it a 5.8 ?

I was terrified of the SMG breaking so never did a 1/4 mile pass on that car. Left the 1/4 mile passes for the F10.

1/2 mile vs. Aventador

[ibd2328]

Thats one bad 4 door saloon my man. Nice car!

[RPiM5]

Damn, I never heard of anyone getting a Twin Turbo S85 V10 to actually work. I thought it would be highly improbable. I also always thought there wasn't enough space in the engine bay to fit the turbos, intercoolers, etc...

Would be cool to see some pix and video.

[ibd2328]

Originally Posted by RPiM5

Damn, I never heard of anyone getting a Twin Turbo S85 V10 to actually work. I thought it would be highly improbable. I also always thought there wasn't enough space in the engine bay to fit the turbos, intercoolers, etc...

Would be cool to see some pix and video.

Turbos are rear mounted. Not under the hood.

Would love to have them closer to the manifold but IATS would go up and its about impossible to fit 5 pipes to two each under the hood.

I will def post some pics and videos. My tuner is currently messed up, so I am hoping to have on by saturday.

[Msizzle]

whats it tuned with? you were able to keep the ecu happy?? I think we all want to know more about this build, i think you have the only working one in the world and you are very matter of fact about it lol

[jcolley]

How do you "build" an SMG?

[ibd2328]

Originally Posted by jcolley

How do you "build" an SMG?

Joey Pierce of CMC customs did some one off billet work on the internals pressure plate/ clutch assembly where it kept overheating. Also has cryogenic treated parts done by A1 auto in GA. His specialty is mainly autos, but he gets alot of his forgings cryo treated.

[ibd2328]

Originally Posted by jcolley

How do you "build" an SMG?

Basically replace stamped parts or anything that is forged with billet or cryo treated parts. The clutch and pressure plates had major wear before rebuild, so that was the first concern. Joey does some awesome milling and CNC work and can replicated about any part in his shop to very high, even BMW tight tolerances. Haven not had any issues about the trans since it was reinstalled.

I am having issues with actuators, as I guess we all do. I have a cheap little heat sink built into the back of each to try to keep the electronics happy, but it still gets hot and goes out overtime even when the teeth on the gears are happy and in sync.

[ibd2328]

Not really that impressive. Only in the 600hp range right now, running around the same boost as a pro charger. Car does have return style fuel system with a -8 feed and -6 return using the weldon pump with a fore regulator and upgraded injectors.

Car runs off a pro efi which can handle 16 injectors and puls widths, but it gives me lots of little electrical gremlins when cold for some reason. Maf sensors were replaced with simple BA3000's on each side with 2.5" pipe into the plenums. Each plenum has its own dedicated intercooler right before the air shoots down into the TB's. I will have to post pics up so it can be understood.

The ECU/PCM doesnt like running the trans in sync with the pro efi (guess this is based on the logic) so I do have some bugs in the D mode. But when I clear the codes and default to S6, I have 0 codes and it works fine until the car is cut off again.

[jcolley]

Originally Posted by ibd2328

Not really that impressive. Only in the 600hp range right now, running around the same boost as a pro charger. Car does have return style fuel system with a -8 feed and -6 return using the weldon pump with a fore regulator and upgraded injectors.

Car runs off a pro efi which can handle 16 injectors and puls widths, but it gives me lots of little electrical gremlins when cold for some reason. Maf sensors were replaced with simple BA3000's on each side with 2.5" pipe into the plenums. Each plenum has its own dedicated intercooler right before the air shoots down into the TB's. I will have to post pics up so it can be understood.

The ECU/PCM doesnt like running the trans in sync with the pro efi (guess this is based on the logic) so I do have some bugs in the D mode. But when I clear the codes and default to S6, I have 0 codes and it works fine until the car is cut off again.

So you have a standalone engine management as well? Integrated with the LL-CAN, DK-CAN, PT-CAN busses, communicating torque manager messages to the SMG? Who did the custom programming for the PT-CAN integration?

[jcolley]

Originally Posted by ibd2328

Basically replace stamped parts or anything that is forged with billet or cryo treated parts. The clutch and pressure plates had major wear before rebuild, so that was the first concern. Joey does some awesome milling and CNC work and can replicated about any part in his shop to very high, even BMW tight tolerances. Haven not had any issues about the trans since it was reinstalled.

I am having issues with actuators, as I guess we all do. I have a cheap little heat sink built into the back of each to try to keep the electronics happy, but it still gets hot and goes out overtime even when the teeth on the gears are happy and in sync.

Do you mean the heat sinks are on the solenoids or on the mechatronics unit? Amazing stuff, would love to see pics.

[ibd2328]

Originally Posted by jcolley

Do you mean the heat sinks are on the solenoids or on the mechatronics unit? Amazing stuff, would love to see pics.

Oh no, nothing fancy. Just small aluminum heat sinks with 12v 3" cooling fans on the housing of the actuators. Been meaning to take some temps with and without them. Not sure if the heatsinks are helping or hurting because of how hot the channel is. When my TB/A gets here today I will snap a couple pics when Im putting them on. The fans only pull about 500ma so they arent doing much.

[ibd2328]

Originally Posted by ibd2328

Oh no, nothing fancy. Just small aluminum heat sinks with 12v 3" cooling fans on the housing of the actuators. Been meaning to take some temps with and without them. Not sure if the heatsinks are helping or hurting because of how hot the channel is. When my TB/A gets here today I will snap a couple pics when Im putting them on. The fans only pull about 500ma so they arent doing much.

I see alot of post about the FETs going out, but that is not always the case. Transitors are not that complicated to work with, easy to check with a DMM with diode setting. Replaced all of mine and didn't fix anything, the precheck is where mine is malfunctioning. Wish I had the time to do more research on them. A Throttle cable would have been fine with me!

Im a math professor at Marshall University, so I know a little physics, but not enough logic or electronics to diagnosis anything past the complexity of a simple 555 timer.

[jcolley]

Originally Posted by ibd2328

Oh no, nothing fancy. Just small aluminum heat sinks with 12v 3" cooling fans on the housing of the actuators. Been meaning to take some temps with and without them. Not sure if the heatsinks are helping or hurting because of how hot the channel is. When my TB/A gets here today I will snap a couple pics when Im putting them on. The fans only pull about 500ma so they arent doing much.

That would be great, would love to see the intake plenum with the BA3000s as well. How large is the intake plenum?

[ibd2328]

Originally Posted by jcolley

That would be great, would love to see the intake plenum with the BA3000s as well. How large is the intake plenum?

The intake plenums are all 6061 aluminum with a built in 3" x 12" x 4" air to water inter-cooler. This is before the air turns down into each chamber. I tigged the outside of them up and Joey did the CNC work on the flanges for the 5 TB couples on each side. I didnt want to run a single plenum because I didnt want to split the 5v signals. If something is wrong with bank 1 I wanted to know immediately. The draw back to the ba3000 is it doesn't give me intake air temps at that location. Thats why I have a simple sensor at the back of the plenum after the IC to measure IATs. I think its more important to see whats in the manifold itself, than whats coming in. Have a simple hobbs like switch that goes off in the car if they go above 140 on either bank. Ba5000 offer IAT's but they tend to be a little inaccurate, as I found out on my truck build. So I have 4 prongs for each MAF sensor and 2 simply going to dummy plugs so I dont get code errors on start up.

Thanks for the interest fellas, I hope I dont disappoint with only 600 hp thus far. Just trying to keep everything together until I get a better tuner with EURO support. Anyone have any suggestions on a good tuner, as I get a lot of DSC errors like you said because of the torque management.

[Lerxst M4]

I think we are all frothing at the mouth with need to see pictures of this setup.

Please post some post haste!