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      10-30-2009, 06:52 PM   #23
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im glad we're not seeing a one-sided, "+1, Ford sucks" throughout this thread. I agree that as an E9x driver, I want to be proud of what I drive and say it's better since it's a BMW (wooooo... -__-), but I have to agree more with those that say Ford is doing better. They're finally realizing that they need to step up their efforts to compete in an industry where change occurs constantly.
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i just went to the ford stealership today to look at the new mustangs. they are pretty awesome. i have a 335xi and a 2000 mustang gt. i have to say from what i have now to what they are putting out now is a big big upgradde for as quality.
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I just don't know how I could get over the look from the outside enough to even sit in one. That thing looks like a bad Chinese knock-off of an Audi A6.
it does now that i think about it.
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      10-31-2009, 12:23 AM   #25
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I just don't know how I could get over the look from the outside enough to even sit in one. That thing looks like a bad Chinese knock-off of an Audi A6.
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      10-31-2009, 01:38 AM   #26
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They know that. Ford is targeting people that are simpleminded enough to really think that they are buying something comparable.
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      10-31-2009, 02:56 AM   #27
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Saw a truckload of these on the way to dealers today. They looked pretty good, probably much better when sitting on their own wheels. I didn't see much A6 in it. It has its own styling elements (or borrowed from the Interceptor concept car). Seemed much more butch than the A6.

While having chip-free paint is a good thing, this is not all there is to paint quality. In that respect, the video is misleading or at least falls way short.
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GUYS, watch the video again.

You can clearly see the Semi Truck is like 90 percent on the left lane, which is the lane the LS460 is directly behind. The Taurus was in the right lane, watch the wheels of the semi in relation to the center line of the road. The Lexus is clearly getting the most of the rocks here.

They also chose silver for the Taurus which hides visual rock chips well, while white for the LS460 which shows rock chips much more pronounced thanks to the contrast with the layer darker layer underneath.

Those Dirty Dirty people at Ford.
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GUYS, watch the video again.

You can clearly see the Semi Truck is like 90 percent on the left lane, which is the lane the LS460 is directly behind. The Taurus was in the right lane, watch the wheels of the semi in relation to the center line of the road. The Lexus is clearly getting the most of the rocks here.
you did not listen to the video, their point was not the number of rock chips.
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What a bunch of ignorant badge whores around here. Some of you can accept that Ford has done anything better then Lexus.
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Better? Do you mean as an overall car including the ability to retain it's value. Please name such a Ford.
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Better? Do you mean as an overall car including the ability to retain it's value. Please name such a Ford.
No I said "ANYTHING" in this case maybe the Ford paint is more resistant it chipping. That is all that the video was trying to show. Did you even watch it?
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Better? Do you mean as an overall car including the ability to retain it's value. Please name such a Ford.
..oh, and Ford GT.
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Ford is a joke in my opinion...except their Ford GT.
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What a bunch of ignorant badge whores around here. Some of you can accept that Ford has done anything better then Lexus.
+1 it really shows how vain people can be, definitely not real "car" people, just badge whores
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I think there is almost certainly some shenanigans going on in that ad video but still, the Taurus is a winner. It looks good, drives good, and in SHO guise, is a decent performer. All that while being huge enough to replace your SUV as a family hauler. Not a bad job by the people at FoMoCO (the only domestic that turned down bailout money)....
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Not a bad job by the people at FoMoCO (the only domestic that turned down bailout money)....
I'm proud of them for being able to do so, but in reality, the only reason they were in that position was because they were in serious financial trouble about 24 months before the recession and had to restructure. Had GM been in the trouble that Ford was at the time, its very probable they wouldn't have needed the money.
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I'm proud of them for being able to do so, but in reality, the only reason they were in that position was because they were in serious financial trouble about 24 months before the recession and had to restructure. Had GM been in the trouble that Ford was at the time, its very probable they wouldn't have needed the money.
GM's been in trouble for the last decade. Nothing was stopping them from restructuring years ago. They didn't and Ford did. Theres your difference...
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GM's been in trouble for the last decade. Nothing was stopping them from restructuring years ago. They didn't and Ford did. Theres your difference...
GM started to restructure after 2005...... It just ran out of money to continue its restructuring due to the financial crisis........
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GM started to restructure after 2005...... It just ran out of money to continue its restructuring due to the financial crisis........
Yeah, but its something that should have happened before this decade even started....
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..oh, and Ford GT.
Yes, the Ford GT is an excellent example of Ford's current offerings.
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Yes, the Ford GT is an excellent example of Ford's current offerings.
Oh wait....
Nice try, but you can't try to change the question after someone has answered.

Just take another sip of your badge whore cool aid and ignore the 'non-BMW' section of the forum.
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Do people who buy $70K luxury cars worry about fuel economy? By the way the BMW 335 gets better fuel economy than the Ecoboost and is as fast.
They definitely do. THere's a reason why people spend a lot more money for a hybrid version of something rather than the gas powered version (it's good for the environment and gets good mileage too).
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They definitely do. THere's a reason why people spend a lot more money for a hybrid version of something rather than the gas powered version.
Yes, they are stupid (particularly in the case of the Lexus Hybrids).
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