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| 11-04-2009, 09:17 AM | #1 |
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2011 F10 M5 powertrain, suspension, aerodynamics, exterior details (with newest pics)
Great article from http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsAr...Series/244587/ on the F10 M5's engine, transmission, suspension, aerodynamics and exterior appearance.
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Here's some recent spy photos of the F10 M5: http://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=309562 http://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=303014 http://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=302615 BMW’s M division has kicked off development of the fifth-generation M5, 25 years after the first model went on sale in the UK. The new performance saloon, known internally under the codename F10M and due to make its first public appearance at the Frankfurt motor show in 2011, is set to mark a major departure from its predecessors by adopting turbocharging for the first time. The decision is part of the drive to cut fuel consumption, a key element of BMW’s Efficient Dynamics programme. M division’s head of development, Albert Biermann, said the new driveline will also receive taller gearing, helping to cut CO2 emissions by 20 per cent, from 344g/km to around 275g/km. “We’ve been forced to switch to an engine offering greater low-end torque than the naturally aspirated engine to ensure it can cope with the longer axle ratio,” Biermann said. “It’s the only real way we can balance achieving the environmental improvements we want while retaining similar levels of performance to today’s car.” The engine’s output remains secret. But with the same unit pumping out 555bhp in the X5 and X6 M, the new car should stick to the M5 tradition of being more powerful than the car it replaces. The most noticeable difference will be the way the new engine delivers its power. The V10’s 500bhp comes at 7750rpm, but the V8’s peak power should arrive at not much more than 6000rpm. More than outright power, though, it is the added torque that is likely to bring the biggest change in character. Biermann indicated there will be a 30 per cent increase, taking torque from today’s 383lb ft at 6100rpm to somewhere around 500lb ft at little more than 1500rpm. Biermann is also confident the V8’s unique induction system will provide similar levels of throttle response to today’s model. “The development process is at an early stage. We’re concentrating on the durability and cooling of the driveline at the moment,” said Biermann. The V8 means the M5 will require additional cooling capacity for the intercooler as well as a means of extracting hot air created by the turbochargers. Along with the new engine, the car will also get a new gearbox, a beefed-up version of the M3’s seven-speed DCT (dual-clutch transmission), as previewed on the 25th anniversary version of the M5 unveiled last week. Although BMW has just introduced a new petrol-electric hybrid system on its new Active Hybrid 7, it has not been considered for the M5 due to the 100kg it adds to the car’s weight. Weight saving is playing a big part in the M5’s development, with carbonfibre being used in the bodyshell. BMW is working on a carbonfibre roof and bootlid, mainly because, being sited on top of the car, they are less vulnerable to impact damage. At the same time, a lot of effort is going into honing the aerodynamics at BMW’s new wind tunnel in Munich. The car will get Active Aerodynamics, which blanks off parts of the grille and cooling intakes during warm-up and under light throttle load. The new M5 will continue the car’s tradition of visual understatement with a muscular appearance. LED lighting will be used to enhance the look and differentiate the M5 from the standard 5-series, a new generation of which is due early next year. Underneath, there will be new double wishbone front suspension in place of the MacPherson strut set-up that has been a mainstay of the M5. It will be combined with multi-link rear suspension. As with today’s model, active dampers will be used to provide the driver with the choice of differing levels of ride comfort. They will be part of a new chassis system that also includes reworked traction and stability management. The M5 will also get new, fully electric power steering, described by Biermann as a third-generation system that offers similar levels of response and feedback to today’s hydraulic set-up. |
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| 11-04-2009, 08:00 PM | #2 |
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I have absolutely zero doubt this thing is going to be a monster. I think its going to be all good. Although I enjoy SMG and love 6spd. I realize the benefits of DCT.
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| 11-04-2009, 08:33 PM | #3 |
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I love the ///M3, but I want 550hp ///M5
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500lbft of torque @ 1500rpm??!!!! :
 :  you have got to be kidding me!why would anyone down this car! it's the greenest answer to the current m5! wow! can't wait! i dont even care what it looks like.. i know its gonna look good. |
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| 11-04-2009, 08:34 PM | #4 |
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I love the ///M3, but I want 550hp ///M5
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btw, in these pics.. the f10 looks like the same size as the e60... other photos.. depending on zoom can make the car look wider.
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| 11-04-2009, 08:52 PM | #7 |
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I know I'm probably in the minority, but the death of the high revving engine is tough to swallow. Wouldn't even mind FI if they found a way to keep the revs up.
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| 11-04-2009, 09:45 PM | #9 |
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Electric power steering?
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| 11-04-2009, 10:09 PM | #11 |
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i'm already fapping to these pics
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| 11-04-2009, 11:06 PM | #12 |
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HHmmm...I'm Still not convinced that the next Gen M5 will get V8TT, we all know how that X6M, X5M has a great engine and all, but i believe that the next M5 should be just better, V10 TT,,
So what if the next M3 gets a V8TT? then no point of buying M5s...And what if worst I6TT then no point of buying M3s just get 335i Currently there too many models with a V8TT..750i,Li, X6 50i, 5 GT, X6M, X5M an it's possible the next 550i.. SO It WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY POINTLESS TO HAVE ANOTHER V8TT ENGINE CAR REGARDLESS OF HOW-MUCH HP...  |
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| 11-04-2009, 11:11 PM | #13 | |
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On another note, if tuner's produced such beasts as the M5 hurricane, I'm almost afraid to see what they will do with a factory turbo'ed M5. With some tuner's getting 700HP out of the base 500HP from the current M5, I don't think 1000HP out of the next generation M5 would be much of stretch. |
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| 11-04-2009, 11:29 PM | #14 |
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This car is going to be a complete monster. The M5 is going to be on top of the luxury sedan food chain again ...right where it belongs. Definitely going to leave AMG and Porsche quaking in their boots.
 I'd like to see how they're going to change up the M6. |
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| 11-05-2009, 12:00 AM | #16 | |
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 I want to drive one again!
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| 11-05-2009, 01:56 AM | #19 |
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A^M=G is nothing w/o the Power of ///M
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This car will have no soul. The soul of every M car is its engine and theres nothing special about a TT V8.
An NA 5.0L V10 with 8250revs and 100hp/liter is special, this new engine is not. Looks like I'll be moving to porsche or something else that still has some NA offerings The thing that makes the E60 M5 so special is the fact that you get an engine and transmission usually found only in the most hardcore sports cars, in the shell and luxury of a BMW sedan.
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| 11-05-2009, 05:05 AM | #21 | |
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The M5 will have more power then the current M5, so no worries  Look what this engine does in a heavy SUV, think about a bit more power in a much ligther saloon  |
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