Autocar: AWD F10 M5 Confirmed by BMW. AWD M Variants Certain for Future - M5POST

Jason · 04-07-2011, 01:03 PM

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Autocar: AWD F10 M5 Confirmed by BMW. AWD M Variants Certain for Future

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UPDATE as of 5/2/11: According to Autocar, BMW official have now acknowledged that a 4-wheel-drive model of the new F10 M5 is being prepared for eventual production. The AWD F10 M5 will join the standard RWD M5 as an additional model and should be good news for those who live in snowy climates.

Original Post from 4/7/11:

Many speculated that a AWD F10 M5 was possible in the works when BMW released the promo videos of the new M5 undergoing serious snow testing. It appears there may indeed possibly be an F10 M5 xDrive version sometime in the future.

In an interview with Autocar, BMW M's head of research and development, Albert Biermann, indicated that “There will be some all-wheel-drive surprises on M cars in the future," apparently to satisfy demand from the US's snow belt. This would represent the first time that the M5 come in a xDrive variant.

The only transmission details released so far for the concept F10 M5 is that it uses a Getrag 7-speed M DCT with M Drivelogic and has an Active M Differential, and standard RWD.

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Yurka · 04-07-2011, 01:10 PM

This is great news for us Snow people.

hcourville · 04-07-2011, 01:19 PM

People in North America are "brain washed" over AWD. We will buy an AWD drive car here when they need it for about 4 or 5 bad snowy days in an entire year. Or consumers will buy a truck or SUV so they can go camping in the summer. Then they sacrifice for AWD the other 300 days of the year. The mentality here really suprises me sometimes.

And it's not BMW fault. They're just following the money.

cs4444 · 04-07-2011, 01:20 PM

Autocar stated the m5 will have 552hp and 510lb-ft is this true? I thought the Hp would be higher than the X5M's...

RevFreak14 · 04-07-2011, 01:21 PM

Say goodbye to powersliding. Might as well buy an Audi. M Division is getting worse with each passing day.

DASHOCKER · 04-07-2011, 01:22 PM

This is fantastic news! But too little too late for me

TonyMeister · 04-07-2011, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cs4444

Autocar stated the m5 will have 552hp and 510lb-ft is this true? I thought the Hp would be higher than the X5M's...

If BMW said the new M5 will be more powerful than the X5 M, then you shouldn't believe in what Autocar says.

PKL · 04-07-2011, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by hcourville

People in North America are "brain washed" over AWD. We will buy an AWD drive car here when they need it for about 4 or 5 bad snowy days in an entire year. Or consumers will buy a truck or SUV so they can go camping in the summer. Then they sacrifice for AWD the other 300 days of the year. The mentality here really suprises me sometimes.

And it's not BMW fault. They're just following the money.

PERFECTLY SAID! RWD with snow tires works JUST FINE!!!

Jason · 04-07-2011, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RevFreak14

Say goodbye to powersliding. Might as well buy an Audi. M Division is getting worse with each passing day.

Nobody said there will only be an xDrive model. Any AWD model would be in addition to the standard RWD model.

VenomBMW · 04-07-2011, 01:26 PM

Yes!!! Release date?

Yurka · 04-07-2011, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PKL

PERFECTLY SAID! RWD with snow tires works JUST FINE!!!

Not when you live in the mountains and no one paves your roads and you constantly have over 4 inches of snow on the ground. Why do M people get so offended when AWD performance cars are mentioned? For some of us it would come in very handy

E60orBust · 04-07-2011, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RevFreak14

Say goodbye to powersliding. Might as well buy an Audi. M Division is getting worse with each passing day.

Ever seen an Evo/Suby drift? If M puts the same gradual LSD they have in the rear diff in the front and center diff, then an M xdrive might be more Rally 4WD than Audi AWD, which I whole-heartedly support.

Just carrying over the active diff from the X# cars, meh, keep the weight, I'll stick to a RWD then.

-=Hot|Ice=- · 04-07-2011, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RevFreak14

Say goodbye to powersliding. Might as well buy an Audi. M Division is getting worse with each passing day.

Keep destroying the M brand going BMW, you're on a roll!!!

ddigangi · 04-07-2011, 01:43 PM

that would be great to see an AWD, keep up with audi's rs6

Mako · 04-07-2011, 01:43 PM

this isn't just great for us up north but AWD on a high torque car is a good thing, look at cars like the TT-RS and GT-R and see what kind of acceleration they can get because of it, otherwise RWD might not be able to handle all the power.

As for people saying you don't need AWD in the snow, sure you don't, I have a C63 with snow tires and I am fine, BUT I would love to have AWD if it was an option, not just for snow, but ice!!!

like the other poster said, this will most likely be an OPTION, not standard plus I would bet BMW does something similar to Audi where you can select the torque split and drive 20/80 if you want or 50/50 in the winter...

Would love to see this on a M3 Sedan or GT as the M5 is a little out of my price range.

MDivPower · 04-07-2011, 01:45 PM

instead of the AWD system, build a light weight hardcore version, that would excite the people!!!

Diver · 04-07-2011, 01:46 PM

Does not make a lot of sense to me in terms of what the M brand has stood for, but that appears to be changing with BMW going for a wider appeal. Using modified versions of the stock turbo motors instead of bespoke high revving NA motors keeps the costs down (including getting rid of the gas guzzler tax and any similar EU fines) and potentially could increase sales.

nal13 · 04-07-2011, 01:46 PM

Goodbye Audi, hello again BMW!!!!!

TonyMeister · 04-07-2011, 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -=Hot|Ice=-

Keep destroying the M brand going BMW, you're on a roll!!!

Yes they are on a roll They posted record profits and they are the world's most admired brand. The future for BMW looks very bright indeed.

E60orBust · 04-07-2011, 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mako

Would love to see this on a M3 Sedan or GT as the M5 is a little out of my price range.

Didn't BMW say no sedan for the next M3 car?

Quote:

Originally Posted by nal13

Goodbye Audi, hello again BMW!!!!!

OT: Doesn't the S4/5 come with a rear LSD?

Mako · 04-07-2011, 01:56 PM

[quote=E60orBust;9313762]Didn't BMW say no sedan for the next M3 car?

right, which is why I added GT, I am fine with a M3GT Xdrive, any other letters/words we can add to it

Just wish it wasn't called that, just put M3 on it and leave off all the other crap... People will know its a GT and who cares if anyone knows its AWD or not

southlight · 04-07-2011, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -=Hot|Ice=-

Quote:

Originally Posted by RevFreak14

Say goodbye to powersliding. Might as well buy an Audi. M Division is getting worse with each passing day.

Keep destroying the M brand going BMW, you're on a roll!!!

Relax guys. The F10 M5 has been confirmed as RWD, so we're either talking about an AWD option or about a different model.

Best regards,
south

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hcourville Enlisted Member Drives: 135i Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Kelowna, B.C. Posts: 49 iTrader: (0)	People in North America are "brain washed" over AWD. We will buy an AWD drive car here when they need it for about 4 or 5 bad snowy days in an entire year. Or consumers will buy a truck or SUV so they can go camping in the summer. Then they sacrifice for AWD the other 300 days of the year. The mentality here really suprises me sometimes. And it's not BMW fault. They're just following the money. Last edited by hcourville; 04-07-2011 at 01:20 PM. Reason: sp

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VenomBMW Banned Drives: 128i Convertible Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: In a house Posts: 63 iTrader: (0)	Yes!!! Release date?

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Mako 2000 M Roadster (sold), 2006 M Coupe (sold) Drives: '12 X3 35i M Spt '13 335 M Spt Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,087 iTrader: (0)	this isn't just great for us up north but AWD on a high torque car is a good thing, look at cars like the TT-RS and GT-R and see what kind of acceleration they can get because of it, otherwise RWD might not be able to handle all the power. As for people saying you don't need AWD in the snow, sure you don't, I have a C63 with snow tires and I am fine, BUT I would love to have AWD if it was an option, not just for snow, but ice!!! like the other poster said, this will most likely be an OPTION, not standard plus I would bet BMW does something similar to Audi where you can select the torque split and drive 20/80 if you want or 50/50 in the winter... Would love to see this on a M3 Sedan or GT as the M5 is a little out of my price range.

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MDivPower Private First Class Drives: mk4 Jetta Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Cairo Posts: 120 iTrader: (0)	instead of the AWD system, build a light weight hardcore version, that would excite the people!!!

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Diver Colonel Drives: Black '12 135i DCT PPK Msport Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 2,029 iTrader: (0)	Does not make a lot of sense to me in terms of what the M brand has stood for, but that appears to be changing with BMW going for a wider appeal. Using modified versions of the stock turbo motors instead of bespoke high revving NA motors keeps the costs down (including getting rid of the gas guzzler tax and any similar EU fines) and potentially could increase sales. __________________ See my photography at http://ronscubadiver.wordpress.com

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Mako 2000 M Roadster (sold), 2006 M Coupe (sold) Drives: '12 X3 35i M Spt '13 335 M Spt Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,087 iTrader: (0)	[quote=E60orBust;9313762]Didn't BMW say no sedan for the next M3 car? right, which is why I added GT, I am fine with a M3GT Xdrive, any other letters/words we can add to it Just wish it wasn't called that, just put M3 on it and leave off all the other crap... People will know its a GT and who cares if anyone knows its AWD or not

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