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      06-15-2011, 07:20 AM   #177
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The new M5 is TOO BIG. I drove an F10 and it's just like a barge. That's the real problem. Why do they invest so much R&D in making a whale handle well is beyond me. I now realize that Mercedes is clever when they don't really care if their big saloons handle well. They only add power and brakes.

560hp is not extraordinary. It's clear that BMW also had efficiency in mind besides the power.

The new M3, on the other hand...
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      06-15-2011, 08:16 AM   #178
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      06-15-2011, 08:17 AM   #179
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It is funny how nobody seems to be bothered with the side vents now.
I think the car looks BADAZZ, but yea, the side vents are TOO BIG!
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      06-15-2011, 08:22 AM   #180
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Oh yeah, and will this thing be able to hang with A Panamera Turbo S? That's the real question. I wouldn't worry about the CTS V or current E63 AMG.

never!
edit: I think in the last "sport auto magazin" the Panamera turbo s was tested against the S63 AMG, 760i etc. and I think it made 3.8 from 0-100 kph and about 11,8 to 200kph!!!! Thats impressive!
But you can´t be serious comparing the panamera and the 5 series?!
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      06-15-2011, 08:39 AM   #181
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Epic Fail

Boring looks like a Ford Taurus.

Would buy so many other cars first if I was in the market.

I have liked the prior M5's but I think this one will be a flop.

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      06-15-2011, 08:41 AM   #182
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I have no doubt this will be a fast car but to me it is simply another AMG car. Big comfortable with a huge engine. But nothing unique that you cannot find in a hundred other cars. A big turbo V8-take your pick.

The outgoing M cars you could not find a comparison in engine characteristics aside from a few audi's with high revving engines. They were in a class of their own, love them or hate them, there was nothing like it out there outside of a ferrari/lambo.

It will be a success for bmw, a nice car to have but IMO will not fill the void of a true M car. Would be nice if they offered both this and a high revving screamer.
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I hope the M GmbH will surprise us all and the upcoming M3 will still have a NA engine.
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      06-15-2011, 08:50 AM   #183
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I have no doubt this will be a fast car but to me it is simply another AMG car. Big comfortable with a huge engine. But nothing unique that you cannot find in a hundred other cars. A big turbo V8-take your pick.

The outgoing M cars you could not find a comparison in engine characteristics aside from a few audi's with high revving engines. They were in a class of their own, love them or hate them, there was nothing like it out there outside of a ferrari/lambo.

It will be a success for bmw, a nice car to have but IMO will not fill the void of a true M car. Would be nice if they offered both this and a high revving screamer.

Remeber this one, some 20 years ago?

Turbos are from the past and ready for the future imho.
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      06-15-2011, 08:51 AM   #184
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The ///M front bumper looks more subtle,




But the rear diffuser is definitely meaner,


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      06-15-2011, 08:51 AM   #185
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BMW I am dissappoint

3 less HP than an X6M--- and only 1 more Tq?

sounds like a whole lotta nothing you get extra from those humungous intercoolers. Maybe the torque curve will be awesome, and maybe there will be a lot left over for aftermarket tuners.... I was at least hoping for a figure like 575hp


So --- WHY on earth would I ever spend 100,000 on an M5 when I can get a 550i with xdrive and M-aero kit and a tune? DCT/6spd? Ceramic brakes? (likely a huge $$$$ option)

M isn't for motorsport
M isn't even for marketing anymore
M is for MEANINGLESS
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      06-15-2011, 08:52 AM   #186
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      06-15-2011, 09:02 AM   #187
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This car is the closest thing we have to go on earth...Dinan should have a field day tuning this thing...
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      06-15-2011, 09:23 AM   #188
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Don't like the front bumper looks weak,the mirrors look boring ,rims look gay, blue breaks are gayer... hope they change it up a bit
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      06-15-2011, 09:33 AM   #189
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Nice car, it's big but BMW usually knows how to do it.

And that F40! OMG!!!!!
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      06-15-2011, 09:37 AM   #190
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The ///M front bumper looks more subtle,


It's true, they should be reversed. Look at the current E92 M-Sport vs the M3, the current F10 m-sport looks like the M3 front and the M5 looks like the E92 front.
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      06-15-2011, 09:40 AM   #191
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Displacement: 4,395 cc, output: 412 kW/560 hp at 6,000 – 7,000 rpm,
max. torque: 680 Nm (502 lb-ft) at 1,500 – 5,750 rpm.
Acceleration 0 – 100 km/h (62 mph): 4.4 seconds,
acceleration 0 – 200 km/h (124 mph): 13.0 seconds,
top speed: 250 km/h / 155 mph (305 km/h / 190 mph with M Driver’s Package).
Average fuel consumption: 9.9 litres/100 kilometres (28.5 mpg imp),
CO2 emissions: 232 g/km, exhaust standard: EU5.

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      06-15-2011, 09:43 AM   #192
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goodbye world's fastest sedan... hello just another BMW.. I hope the figures are whp, would be pure sex!
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BMW have tapped into this by mirroring typical BMW dynamics and steering communication within the new UKL cars.
You mean massive body roll, a steering system that is not connected to the front wheels, and the engine note played through the speaker system?!?!?!?!
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      06-15-2011, 09:46 AM   #193
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The new BMW M5. press release - 23 pages.
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      06-15-2011, 10:03 AM   #194
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The new BMW M5. press release - 23 pages.
worth reading
From the press release:

Weight, unladen, to DIN/EU kg : 1870 / 1945

1945kg = 4322lbs.

For comparison, 550i is 4343lbs (manual)
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      06-15-2011, 10:05 AM   #195
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Man this guy is SO happy!!! hahah...
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Again, from the press release.



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      06-15-2011, 10:17 AM   #197
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