1600+ Sedan Horsepowers Compared - BMW F10 M5 vs E63 AMG vs CTS-V - Page 2 - M5POST

Yogijet · 06-15-2011, 06:58 PM

I think the BMW has the cleanest, sleekest exterior of the trio. The Benz looks menacing. The simplicity of the BMW's interior is attractive as well compared with the seemingly cluttered nature of the others. All that clutter is probably in an iDrive menu in the BMW though

. I agree with the poster who thinks the BMW will likely be the one to take the hearts as this has been BMW's forte from day 0. Where is the XF-R?

Nutballa · 06-15-2011, 06:59 PM

hahaha! Look at the M5s engine bay! Looks Ridiculous!

PaulBailey@ltbmw · 06-15-2011, 07:03 PM

These are all incredible cars and I can admit that...
The ///M5 is still just overall better in every way.

Lemon Jelly M3 · 06-15-2011, 07:10 PM

E63 looks like a Toyota to me somehow next to the M5

M3_WC · 06-15-2011, 07:26 PM

I really like the numbers and looks of the E63. It just looks mean.

Jblack4083 · 06-15-2011, 07:35 PM

The rear of the E63 is hideous. And the square exhaust pipes just dont fit... Looks cheesy.

StealYourFace · 06-15-2011, 07:52 PM

The M5 just looks so good, if a tad large.

The CTSv looks 6 years old, and not in the nice BMW way of having a timeless, "that car will look great in 20 years," look.

Needsdecaf · 06-15-2011, 08:08 PM

I find it very interesting that the turbocharged M5 makes it's peak torque at 1,500 RPM, whereas the supercharged Caddy makes it's torque peak at 3,800 RPM. So much for turbo lag and instant supercharger power.

Also....post fuel economy numbers in the chart.

AbuArije5 · 06-15-2011, 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M3_WC

5.5L twin turbo in the Benz, win!

And the Benz is lighter, lol.

What he said

MrHarris · 06-15-2011, 08:53 PM

Man the CTS-V looks so dated compared to the E63 and M5

RichP · 06-15-2011, 09:16 PM

Of course I am biased... but the CTS-V sedan (automatic) 0-60 is generally rated at 3.9, not 4.4.

The M5 'ring time is going to tell the real story; stay tuned.

SHOWTIME · 06-15-2011, 09:54 PM

M5 Engine bay looks like a 4 arm monster from the old movies lol

IancoleTX · 06-15-2011, 10:37 PM

God they just killed it with the f10 design and the m5. Dream car.

wisesoul · 06-15-2011, 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MERCSUk153

Put the Panamera in and it would be no contest. Panamera may have an ugly rear but the interior is quality is much superior to all three just no comparison. Turbo and S version would also eat the three cars on a track as the Panamera is much better balanced and if you want to talk about steering feel that BMW owners want to talk about than forget it as the current 5er steering sucks and the Panamera steering is good to great.

Yes because you've driven the M5 enough to know that the steering sucks. This car will no doubt have a tighter steering rack. No doubt that the PT and PTS will eat up any of these cars in a straight line. On the track,we shall wait and see. After all, the AWD M5 is supposedly being produced at some point

Poppin Fresh · 06-15-2011, 11:01 PM

F10 M5 = Return Of The King!

numba1guju · 06-15-2011, 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BLTZKRG

Love the new M5, Alpine White on Coral Red anyone?

more like indianapolis red

King335i · 06-15-2011, 11:30 PM

I don't really like the CTS-V sedan, but I love the V coupe, which is why I own one. As far as sedans go, the M5 and E63 are pretty far above the CTS-V in terms of styling.

Between the M5 and E63....that's a tough one. The M5 is underwhelmingly understated, but still has beautiful lines. I can't wait to see more in white, especially with aftermarket wheels.
The E63 just has a boss presence, however people that don't know how special it is just look at the car as another vanilla benz.

The CTS-V has a design language that just translates better into coupe form, and the coupe is truly stunning in person. Honestly though I'm selling mine as soon as this new M5 hits, a BMW TT V8 is pretty much too hard to not consider. It's true what they say, once you go BMW, it's hard to go back

Winner of this comparo, and the 'I want one' contest=M5.

King335i · 06-15-2011, 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichP

Of course I am biased... but the CTS-V sedan (automatic) 0-60 is generally rated at 3.9, not 4.4.

The M5 'ring time is going to tell the real story; stay tuned.

Yeah I was going to say something about that 0-60 time...

Reckamech · 06-15-2011, 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by southlight

That's the AMG Performance Package which -- among some other things -- bumps power and torque of the engine. I've added a clarification.

Best regards,
south

I though the purpose of getting a AMG or ///M Car or V was to get the Performance Package? Looks like a MB attempt to squeeze more money out of you.

Nang Vann · 06-15-2011, 11:48 PM

Hot dam!!! That M5 engine bay looks like a transformer! Eye candy right there

g_rant · 06-15-2011, 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmunro

Coolest looking engine bay, easy win for M5

All business, minimal cheese.

screw those covers on the other cars

muskamatt · 06-16-2011, 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jblack4083

The rear of the E63 is hideous. And the square exhaust pipes just dont fit... Looks cheesy.

have you seen a 550 or a 7 series?

Apparently a 550i with M sport just wouldn't do it for you because of those darn exhaust tips.

06-15-2011, 06:58 PM	#23
Yogijet Lieutenant Drives: 2009 BMW 135i, Jet Black Join Date: May 2010 Location: Palms Valley Posts: 562 iTrader: (0)	I think the BMW has the cleanest, sleekest exterior of the trio. The Benz looks menacing. The simplicity of the BMW's interior is attractive as well compared with the seemingly cluttered nature of the others. All that clutter is probably in an iDrive menu in the BMW though . I agree with the poster who thinks the BMW will likely be the one to take the hearts as this has been BMW's forte from day 0. Where is the XF-R? __________________ BMW Performance Exhaust, Michelin Pilot Supersports F-225/40, R-255/35, BMW Performance Suspension, BMW Performance black kidneys, Quaife LSD, M3 rear sub-f bushings, M3 front control arm, rear guide rod and rear upper link kits, BMW Performance cross-drilled/slotted rotors, AFE Cold Air Intake. Last edited by Yogijet; 06-20-2011 at 10:23 PM.

06-15-2011, 06:59 PM	#24
Nutballa Captain Drives: BMW 335i Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Austin, Texas+ San Antonio Posts: 763 iTrader: (1)	hahaha! Look at the M5s engine bay! Looks Ridiculous! __________________ BMW FTW! "Power is nothing without Control" - Pirelli.

06-15-2011, 07:52 PM	#29
StealYourFace Lieutenant Drives: 2006 330i sport Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Shakedown Street, Buffalo NY Posts: 497 iTrader: (1)	The M5 just looks so good, if a tad large. The CTSv looks 6 years old, and not in the nice BMW way of having a timeless, "that car will look great in 20 years," look. __________________ 330i ~ BMW Perf. Susp. ~ M3 Front Control Arms ~ BMW Perf Exhaust ~ 3.38 lsd ~ 230s ~ Pilot Super Sports

06-15-2011, 08:53 PM	#32
MrHarris yodog Drives: '86 Corolla Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Diamond Bar, Ca Posts: 5,032 iTrader: (5) Garage List 2009 BMW [5.00]	Man the CTS-V looks so dated compared to the E63 and M5 __________________ 2009 E92 M3 \| Alpine White \| Black Extended \| Advan RS \| Turner Test Pipes \| Dinan Axle-Back \| OETuning \| Eibach Springs \| UUC SSK \| VRS Front Lip \| VRS Type I Diffuser \| Matte Black \| RPi Scoops \| MS Filter \| Yokohama AD08 \| F1 Pinnacle Special Thanks: Gintani \| OETuning \| eAs

06-15-2011, 09:16 PM	#33
RichP Major Drives: V-Power Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,049 iTrader: (4)	Of course I am biased... but the CTS-V sedan (automatic) 0-60 is generally rated at 3.9, not 4.4. The M5 'ring time is going to tell the real story; stay tuned. __________________

06-15-2011, 07:03 PM	#25
PaulBailey@ltbmw General Drives: 2-325 330 2-335 2-Z4 2-135 X5d Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Huntington Beach, CA Posts: 26,665 iTrader: (33) Garage List 2008 BMW 335i E90 [3.50] 2011 BMW 335i E92 [3.98]	These are all incredible cars and I can admit that... The ///M5 is still just overall better in every way.

06-15-2011, 07:10 PM	#26
Lemon Jelly M3 Lieutenant Drives: M3 (E90,ZCP,6MT) Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: East Coast Posts: 454 iTrader: (0)	E63 looks like a Toyota to me somehow next to the M5

06-15-2011, 07:26 PM	#27
M3_WC Lieutenant Colonel Drives: M3 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: CA Posts: 1,840 iTrader: (0)	I really like the numbers and looks of the E63. It just looks mean.

06-15-2011, 07:35 PM	#28
Jblack4083 Captain Drives: E46 ///M3 JB/CB Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Queens, NYC Posts: 676 iTrader: (0)	The rear of the E63 is hideous. And the square exhaust pipes just dont fit... Looks cheesy.

06-15-2011, 08:08 PM	#30
Needsdecaf Everything's Bigger in Texas! Drives: 2011 535i Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: The Woodlands, TX Posts: 937 iTrader: (0)	I find it very interesting that the turbocharged M5 makes it's peak torque at 1,500 RPM, whereas the supercharged Caddy makes it's torque peak at 3,800 RPM. So much for turbo lag and instant supercharger power. Also....post fuel economy numbers in the chart.

06-15-2011, 09:54 PM	#34
SHOWTIME Lieutenant Drives: 2011 335i Coupe M-Sport Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Westchester, NY Posts: 587 iTrader: (0)	M5 Engine bay looks like a 4 arm monster from the old movies lol

06-15-2011, 10:37 PM	#35
IancoleTX Dillo boxers Drives: BMW Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: USA Posts: 2,882 iTrader: (12)	God they just killed it with the f10 design and the m5. Dream car. __________________ 2011 135i 6MT - Alpine White / Savannah Beige

06-15-2011, 11:01 PM	#37
Poppin Fresh Colonel Drives: With a sunroof and front plate Join Date: May 2009 Location: Bergen County NJ Posts: 2,057 iTrader: (0)	F10 M5 = Return Of The King! __________________

06-15-2011, 11:30 PM	#39
King335i Captain Drives: '11 CTS-V Coupe, '11 Jeep GC Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Eugene, Oregon Posts: 718 iTrader: (1)	I don't really like the CTS-V sedan, but I love the V coupe, which is why I own one. As far as sedans go, the M5 and E63 are pretty far above the CTS-V in terms of styling. Between the M5 and E63....that's a tough one. The M5 is underwhelmingly understated, but still has beautiful lines. I can't wait to see more in white, especially with aftermarket wheels. The E63 just has a boss presence, however people that don't know how special it is just look at the car as another vanilla benz. The CTS-V has a design language that just translates better into coupe form, and the coupe is truly stunning in person. Honestly though I'm selling mine as soon as this new M5 hits, a BMW TT V8 is pretty much too hard to not consider. It's true what they say, once you go BMW, it's hard to go back Winner of this comparo, and the 'I want one' contest=M5. __________________ 2007 E92 335i--SG, Fully loaded, minus the dead weight..err..iDrive and Active Steering.

06-15-2011, 11:48 PM	#42
Nang Vann Major Drives: E46 M3, R35 GT-R Join Date: May 2011 Location: Australia Posts: 1,147 iTrader: (0)	Hot dam!!! That M5 engine bay looks like a transformer! Eye candy right there __________________ Moving on up!

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