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      12-27-2011, 06:08 AM   #1
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Autobild Ultimate BMW M Model Track Melee - F10 M5 vs M3 vs 1M vs X6M vs E60 M5
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This must have felt like Christmas for the folks at Autobild. Autobild knows what it takes to have a great story and has done a special edition on BMW M models, called "Fascination M." In this special comparo, Autobild gives an overview of all current BMW M models as well as interesting insights into M GmbH. Most interestingly, Autobild pitted all (yes, all) currently available M models against each other on a German race track named Sachsenring.

The outcome? As you'd expect, the M3 CRT (it's sold out but more info here) is the fastest M car Autobild has ever tested on Sachsenring as it clocked a 1:38.87 minute laptime (the M3 GTS isn't available no more). An amazing second place goes to the brand-new F10 M5 sedan which did a very impressive 1:38.90 - only 3 hundredth of a second slower than the M3 CRT.

3rd place went to the 1M coupe which was slightly faster than the M3 Coupe which in turn was slightly faster than the M3 sedan. An M3 convertible lost roughly 2 seconds to the coupe. No surprises about the X6M and X5M as both were roughly equally as fast. What's remarkable however, is that both are faster than the old E60 M5. See the table below for full lap times.

And while they were at it, Autobild also took lap times for the new M5's toughest rivals, the Porsche Panamera Turbo S and the Mercedes E63 Performance Pack. The Panamara proved to be even faster, outlapping the M5 by 7 tenth of a second which however, begs the question if that's enough for the hefty premium Porsche commands over the M5. Even the Performance Package couldn't help the Merc as it clocked a fairly disappointing 1:40.59.

Long story short, the new F10 M5 continues to impress. And to the German folks around, try to buy a copy of this really entertaining DVD if you have a chance.

Stay tuned for more information on this amazing machine as we get closer to the US market launch next year.


Autobild Shootout Sachsenring lap time
BMW M3 GTS (on semi-slicks)1:37.30
BMW M3 CRT1:38.87
BMW F10 M5 (driven by Claudia Hürtgen. Other cars were driven by Autobild drivers)1:38.90
BMW 1M Coupe1:40.18
BMW M3 Coupe DCT1:40.52
BMW M3 Sedan DCT1:40.60
BMW M3 Convertible DCT1:42.63
BMW X6 M 1:43.67
BMW X5 M1:43.72
BMW E60 M51:43.77


F10 M5 Competition Sachsenring lap time
Porsche Panamera Turbo S1:38.13
BMW F10 M51:38.90
Mercedes E63 AMG PP1:40.59

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      12-27-2011, 03:57 PM   #2
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2 SUVs beat the E60?? and the "souless" F10 beat the 1M??
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That must have been one heck of a good day.
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Thanks, very interesting.
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The best one is missing.... M3 GTS!!
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2 SUVs beat the E60?? and the "souless" F10 beat the 1M??
M5 is DCT, 1M has a manual transmission. I would call this impressive for the 1M
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It would have been nice to have the csl and gts in this.
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      12-27-2011, 04:37 PM   #9
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Awesome!

Which trannies were in the m3's?
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Awesome!

Which trannies were in the m3's?
All M3s were equipped with DCT.


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Hopefully we see the 6 Series M soon...

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Quite embarrassing that the 1M beat the M3. As someone who is looking into purchasing a new M3, this is giving me a great deal of pause.
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Given that the GTS is lighter still than the CRT, I would have been interested in seeing how fast it would have lapped the track relative to the other M cars.
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Quite embarrassing that the 1M beat the M3. As someone who is looking into purchasing a new M3, this is giving me a great deal of pause.
For what it's worth, they also said that the M3 Coupe was the most fun driving around the track.


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Quite embarrassing that the 1M beat the M3. As someone who is looking into purchasing a new M3, this is giving me a great deal of pause.
Don't pause for too long! New 1Ms are almost all gone by now.
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For 1M to be up there with much more powerful beasts is a great accomplishment at nearly half the price.
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It would have been nice to have the csl and gts in this.


Couldn't find the CSL time but I did find the GTS...

1:37,3 min - BMW M3 GTS (semi-slicks)
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Wow and amazing accomplishment by the 1M..
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Couldn't find the CSL time but I did find the GTS...

1:37,3 min - BMW M3 GTS (semi-slicks)
A full second and a half quicker than the CRT... nice.

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Turbo S is, well the Turbo S, no surprise there but the E63 AMG? That's a disappointment and that's with the performance pack.
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