Winter Wheels / Tires Set up for F10 M5 - Page 5 - M5POST

thebishman · 09-17-2012, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by bobblehead

How can that be invoice cost ? Are we talking about 345M ?

If so, Tischer is quoting $2200 for a full set of 345M. BMW Bloomfield is quoting almost identical to Tischer as well.

I am simply reporting what I was told it would cost me to purchase a set of the OEM 19" M5 wheels at the dealership's invoice price. It's a very small dealership; perhaps larger dealerships can get better pricing?
Bish

PatrickC23 · 10-03-2012, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by LAKEOM5

Serious Question:

Why don't you just drive the OEM 20's with Pilot SS year round? The winters in our town are pretty mild and the days that aren't you don't want that car on the road anyway.

I plan on going with the OEM set up year round, if the weather sucks I will drive my Tahoe.

not everyone has a second car though

PatrickC23 · 10-03-2012, 10:58 AM

So who here is going to run winters on stock 20's?

1.) Obviously a 19" setup is preferred, but is it bad to run 20's in winter? Are you really losing that much?

2.) What setup did you run on OEM 20s? I prefer a square setup, so what would be optimal tire size given the stock staggered setup?

I am definitely getting aftermkt 20's, so I will immediately rip off the stock PSS's to put on those. Since its only $1300 option and the 20" PSS's would cost $1800, no brainer it seems. As long as people think 20's in winter will be ok (not a daily driver)

EDIT - sorry just saw this one. Are people going with this? Question 1 is still valid.

Looks like Tire Rack recs 255/35/20

Couple options in that size.

Blizzak, Dunlop, Pirelli.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/TireSe...5&autoModClar=

deathray · 10-11-2012, 07:03 PM

My wheels came in last week, but, I was out of town. I have a test fit scheduled for Monday...Ill let you all know how it goes.

Here are a couple of pictures, Ill add more once theyre mounted.

mwlmd · 10-16-2012, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by deathray

My wheels came in last week, but, I was out of town. I have a test fit scheduled for Monday...Ill let you all know how it goes.

Here are a couple of pictures, Ill add more once theyre mounted.

Do they fit? If so what are the specs and price? Thanks! Any pics mounted?

deathray · 10-16-2012, 05:05 PM

Bad news....they dont fit. From the looks of it, the wheel needs an inner barrel diameter of probably a hair over 18" to clear the brakes.

The CCW guys have been great in their after sales support and are willing to take the rims back.

I spoke to the dealer and the 408M rims are backordrered too (and they are over $900 per rim!) so I am going to continue my search for a new aftermarket set.

bobblehead · 10-16-2012, 05:26 PM

Oh No ! You are in the same position as me.

I ordered my wheels (19" 345M) from Maranello BMW here in Ontario and there is no backordered for this style. I paid $2600 for a set of 4 (no tires) + 13% taxes . The Parts guy, Mike, says he can ship the wheels from his dealership to wherever, of course + shipping charges.

Better be quick in your search for the elusive 19", winter arrives in Alberta in about 3 weeks time or so.

Quote:

Originally Posted by deathray

Bad news....they dont fit. From the looks of it, the wheel needs an inner barrel diameter of probably a hair over 18" to clear the brakes.

The CCW guys have been great in their after sales support and are willing to take the rims back.

I spoke to the dealer and the 408M rims are backordrered too (and they are over $900 per rim!) so I am going to continue my search for a new aftermarket set.

AGS · 10-16-2012, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by deathray

I spoke to the dealer and the 408M rims are backordrered too (and they are over $900 per rim!) so I am going to continue my search for a new aftermarket set.

Where did you get that price from!! I called 6 places and the highest I was quoted was $670 per wheel. Paid $540.

bobblehead · 10-17-2012, 05:53 AM

In Canada, we get charged a price premium on parts of at least 20-30% more than the US. That's the way it is here !

Even after having discounted by my local bmw dealer for the wheels I bought, I still ended up paying about $400 more than what I was quoted if I bought from US.

AGS · 10-17-2012, 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobblehead

In Canada, we get charged a price premium on parts of at least 20-30% more than the US. That's the way it is here !

Even after having discounted by my local bmw dealer for the wheels I bought, I still ended up paying about $400 more than what I was quoted if I bought from US.

Ouch! Can you buy in the US and have them shipped to you?

bobblehead · 10-17-2012, 07:01 AM

yes. I was quoted from BMW Bloomfield for shipping to Canada. But for warranty purpose, I decided to pay that much more to avoid that sort of possible hassle free issue.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AGS

Ouch! Can you buy in the US and have them shipped to you?

AGS · 10-17-2012, 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobblehead

yes. I was quoted from BMW Bloomfield for shipping to Canada. But for warranty purpose, I decided to pay that much more to avoid that sort of possible hassle free issue.

It's still an OEM BMW product, no matter where you purchase it or what you pay. I'd be shocked if your dealer tried to claim breach of warranty because you wanted to save a couple bucks and didn't pay their exorbitant prices.

deathray · 10-17-2012, 05:32 PM

The unfortunate part is that the tire and wheel warranty available here is sold by BMW Financial Servics Canada. It has a specific clause that if the product isnt bought from an authorized reseller an Canada, the warranty doesnt apply. If Im going with aftermarket, Ill probably just suck that up, but, if Im getting OEM anyways....

Its not even really the dealers fault. They get absolutely owned by BMW Canada. Ive seen indications of some of their costs and on some things their cost from BMW Canada is higher than US retail.

Im still hoping to find an aftermarket alternative. Ill keep you guys posted if I come up with anything.

nugent · 10-19-2012, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mwlmd

Anyone have any thoughts?

I was considering a square setup of Michelin Pilot Alpin PA4 in 255/40/19 on 19x9 ET35 wheels.

Perhaps something from AG?

winter wheels? what are those? haha

mwlmd · 10-19-2012, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by nugent

winter wheels? what are those? haha

Sales tax? What's that?

Poleposition · 10-19-2012, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by nordic@telia.com

I will mount these Michelin on my 343 20" original wheels

What size are the fronts? They only make a 245 for the front, correct? Does that fit on a 343 front?

BavFan_08 · 10-23-2012, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by bobblehead

The price for the Michelin PA4 in Canada is $345 per tire (255/40/19) - Not installed/mounted/balanced - just the tire. That's what I am being quoted here in Toronto this week (8/22/12)

If your local shops don't have the supply, you can try this online shop in Quebec.

http://winter-tires.pmctire.com/enw/...een-x-bsw.tire

does anyone have any reviews on pmctire? any good?

BavFan_08 · 10-23-2012, 06:18 PM

Live free or die!!!! oh wait that's New Hampshire...but same thing..no taxes in that state :P

mwlmd · 10-24-2012, 11:07 AM

Finally ordered my winter setup. Happened to be the same day I sold my old M3 winter setup! :thump:

I went with:

BMW OEM type 408M 19x9 (ET 25 rear, ET 32 front)
Pirelli Sottozero 240 serie II 255/40/19
TPMS

I was really disappointed with the lack of aftermarket 19' wheel options for the F10M5!!!!!!!!

Also disappointed with the lack of 20" winter tires for the stock wheels!!

Oh well.

bobblehead · 10-24-2012, 12:36 PM

Apparently, HRE is just now studying & measuring the F10 M5 front brake size for their production of 19".

bobblehead · 11-04-2012, 04:36 PM

One last update from me on my stock 345M wheels chosen for winter use.

I purchased square setup with 19*9 et 32 and TODAY, I have them put on with winter tires mounted on them already. Guess what, the front cleared but not the back ... the shop owner came out and told me the bad news and to my disbelief this whole damn winter wheel nightmare is happening all over again.

The back caliper was barely touching the inner barrel wheel as he rotates the wheels. I asked for solution and he proposed to shave off/machine grinding off about 2-3mm of caliper and repaint the affected area. After about 1/2 hr of work done on both side, the rear wheel finally cleared.

Therefore, the lesson of the day is ..... if anyone is buying the stock 19" 345M wheel. You will need to buy:

Front: 19 * 9 36112284250
Rear: 19 * 10 36112284251

No exception ... unless you want to go thru I just went thru.

stealth.pilot · 11-04-2012, 04:59 PM

[quote=bobblehead;12940397]

Could you have used a 5mm spacer instead?

10-03-2012, 10:58 AM	#91
PatrickC23 Major Drives: A rental car for 6-8 weeks Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: NNJ Posts: 1,041 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2013 BMW ///M5 [0.00]	So who here is going to run winters on stock 20's? 1.) Obviously a 19" setup is preferred, but is it bad to run 20's in winter? Are you really losing that much? 2.) What setup did you run on OEM 20s? I prefer a square setup, so what would be optimal tire size given the stock staggered setup? I am definitely getting aftermkt 20's, so I will immediately rip off the stock PSS's to put on those. Since its only $1300 option and the 20" PSS's would cost $1800, no brainer it seems. As long as people think 20's in winter will be ok (not a daily driver) EDIT - sorry just saw this one. Are people going with this? Question 1 is still valid. Looks like Tire Rack recs 255/35/20 Couple options in that size. Blizzak, Dunlop, Pirelli. http://www.tirerack.com/tires/TireSe...5&autoModClar= __________________ Retired - 2009 C63 l 2007 Supercharged RRS l 2002 e46 SMG ///M3 l 2001 e46 330ci Alpine White/Sakhir Orange F10 M5 - 20" Modulare Matte Titanium Brushed B18s Last edited by PatrickC23; 10-03-2012 at 11:09 AM.

10-11-2012, 07:03 PM	#92
deathray Enlisted Member Drives: E60 M5, F10 M5 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Edmonton Posts: 45 iTrader: (0)	My wheels came in last week, but, I was out of town. I have a test fit scheduled for Monday...Ill let you all know how it goes. Here are a couple of pictures, Ill add more once theyre mounted. Attached Images Last edited by deathray; 10-12-2012 at 12:24 AM. Reason: Added Pictures

10-24-2012, 11:07 AM	#107
mwlmd Captain Drives: F10 M5 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 625 iTrader: (0)	Finally ordered my winter setup. Happened to be the same day I sold my old M3 winter setup! :thump: I went with: BMW OEM type 408M 19x9 (ET 25 rear, ET 32 front) Pirelli Sottozero 240 serie II 255/40/19 TPMS I was really disappointed with the lack of aftermarket 19' wheel options for the F10M5!!!!!!!! Also disappointed with the lack of 20" winter tires for the stock wheels!! Oh well. __________________ E90 M3 (gone but not forgotten) Jerez/Fox/Aluminum/6MT F10 M5 Alpine/Sakhir/Anthracite/DCT

11-04-2012, 04:59 PM	#110
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10-16-2012, 05:05 PM	#94
deathray Enlisted Member Drives: E60 M5, F10 M5 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Edmonton Posts: 45 iTrader: (0)	Bad news....they dont fit. From the looks of it, the wheel needs an inner barrel diameter of probably a hair over 18" to clear the brakes. The CCW guys have been great in their after sales support and are willing to take the rims back. I spoke to the dealer and the 408M rims are backordrered too (and they are over $900 per rim!) so I am going to continue my search for a new aftermarket set.

10-17-2012, 05:53 AM	#97
bobblehead Colonel Drives: warp speed Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Toronto, On Posts: 2,535 iTrader: (0)	In Canada, we get charged a price premium on parts of at least 20-30% more than the US. That's the way it is here ! Even after having discounted by my local bmw dealer for the wheels I bought, I still ended up paying about $400 more than what I was quoted if I bought from US.

10-17-2012, 05:32 PM	#101
deathray Enlisted Member Drives: E60 M5, F10 M5 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Edmonton Posts: 45 iTrader: (0)	The unfortunate part is that the tire and wheel warranty available here is sold by BMW Financial Servics Canada. It has a specific clause that if the product isnt bought from an authorized reseller an Canada, the warranty doesnt apply. If Im going with aftermarket, Ill probably just suck that up, but, if Im getting OEM anyways.... Its not even really the dealers fault. They get absolutely owned by BMW Canada. Ive seen indications of some of their costs and on some things their cost from BMW Canada is higher than US retail. Im still hoping to find an aftermarket alternative. Ill keep you guys posted if I come up with anything.

10-23-2012, 06:18 PM	#106
BavFan_08 Dreamer Drives: Retired: '08 E90 335i Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: T.O. Canada Posts: 786 iTrader: (2)	Live free or die!!!! oh wait that's New Hampshire...but same thing..no taxes in that state :P

10-24-2012, 12:36 PM	#108
bobblehead Colonel Drives: warp speed Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Toronto, On Posts: 2,535 iTrader: (0)	Apparently, HRE is just now studying & measuring the F10 M5 front brake size for their production of 19".

11-04-2012, 04:36 PM	#109
bobblehead Colonel Drives: warp speed Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Toronto, On Posts: 2,535 iTrader: (0)	One last update from me on my stock 345M wheels chosen for winter use. I purchased *square setup with 199 et 32** and TODAY, I have them put on with winter tires mounted on them already. Guess what, the front cleared but not the back ... the shop owner came out and told me the bad news and to my disbelief this whole damn winter wheel nightmare is happening all over again. The back caliper was barely touching the inner barrel wheel as he rotates the wheels. I asked for solution and he proposed to shave off/machine grinding off about 2-3mm of caliper and repaint the affected area. After about 1/2 hr of work done on both side, the rear wheel finally cleared. Therefore, the lesson of the day is ..... if anyone is buying the stock 19" 345M wheel. You will need to buy: Front: 19 * 9 36112284250 Rear: 19 * 10 36112284251 No exception ... unless you want to go thru I just went thru.