Winter Wheels / Tires Set up for F10 M5

[Poleposition]

Back to the drawing board

[Charlie Brown]

Originally Posted by mwlmd

I ordered the same setup but with sottozeros. Price sounds good. I assume that includes TPMS?

Yep. Includes TPS. What ETA did you get? I was told mid December.

[thebishman]

Guys,
I'm going to buy the regular 19" wheels that comes standard on the car if you don't get the 20"s; not the winter wheels. Can anyone point me in the direction of the best price from a dealer in the US that includes the TPMS sensors? Btw, what is the BMW official designation for them again?
TIA,
Bish

[AGS]

Originally Posted by thebishman

Guys,
I'm going to buy the regular 19" wheels that comes standard on the car if you don't get the 20"s; not the winter wheels. Can anyone point me in the direction of the best price from a dealer in the US that includes the TPMS sensors? Btw, what is the BMW official designation for them again?
TIA,
Bish

The best prices I found for ordering BMW OEM parts is this website:

http://www.getbmwparts.com/

It's the online-only affiliate of Tischer BMW in Maryland (also separate from the dealership parts department). I ordered a set of the model 408 winter wheels from these guys ($2,150 for the set pre tax and shipping) and a TPMS/Valve Stem set ($325 pre tax and shipping). Great customer service as well - 2 of the wheels were damaged and they processed the return quickly with no hassles.

[thebishman]

Originally Posted by AGS

The best prices I found for ordering BMW OEM parts is this website:

http://www.getbmwparts.com/

It's the online-only affiliate of Tischer BMW in Maryland (also separate from the dealership parts department). I ordered a set of the model 408 winter wheels from these guys ($2,150 for the set pre tax and shipping) and a TPMS/Valve Stem set ($325 pre tax and shipping). Great customer service as well - 2 of the wheels were damaged and they processed the return quickly with no hassles.

Thanks. I'll give them a call.
Bish

[ucla95]

Originally Posted by thebishman

Thanks. I'll give them a call.
Bish

I would contact Manny at BMW of Roxbury as well, I originally found them off their Roundel ad. They are selling the pre-made set (tires, TPMS, and 408M wheels) for a very good price.

Part numbers - fronts 36-11-222-0678
rears 0679
that's for the set that is premounted tires, tpms, 408M wheels

Or if you want to do it yourself I think they'll give you a very strong price on just the rims or rims and sensors

973-627-7999
manny.assuncao@openroad.com

[deathray]

Originally Posted by bobblehead

Lastly, aside from the stock 19", PYSpeed (online vendor) confirmed the Arkym J12 19" wheel cleared the front & rear. Be preapred to dig into your piggybank, they are over $5000 for a set. The other one that IND has on the M5 show car also has BBS FI 19" and it cleared the front & rear as well. Aside from these two, no other wheel makers have step up to the plate to confirm whether their 19" will clear or not.

I have a set of the Arkym J12's on the way from PYSpeed. They were test fitted by HRE, so, Im pretty optimistic. I was actually going to hold off posting until I got them here and installed, but, since there are so few options available, I figured Id let you folks know the way Im going.

Ill keep everyone posted as to how things go and post some pics when the wheels get onto the car (assuming I can find a day where the roads are clean enough to actually drive the car into the dealership with my summers).

[mwlmd]

Originally Posted by Charlie Brown

Yep. Includes TPS. What ETA did you get? I was told mid December.

My wheels shipped several days ago. According to UPS they will be delivered to my house 11/21.

[bobblehead]

That would be one sick set of wheels ... btw, I thought you're going to park your M5 for the winter and go with X5 as your winter daily drive.

Do post your Arkym ... thanks !

Originally Posted by deathray

I have a set of the Arkym J12's on the way from PYSpeed. They were test fitted by HRE, so, Im pretty optimistic. I was actually going to hold off posting until I got them here and installed, but, since there are so few options available, I figured Id let you folks know the way Im going.

Ill keep everyone posted as to how things go and post some pics when the wheels get onto the car (assuming I can find a day where the roads are clean enough to actually drive the car into the dealership with my summers).

[Charlie Brown]

Originally Posted by AGS

Get the BMW OEM recommended winter wheel (model 408). I just received mine. They offer the best of both worlds - very similar look to the 343s in a 19" wheel with narrower rear so you can run a 4-square set-up on the tires. Tischer BMW has them for $2,150 for the set (before delivery cost).

AGS, Do you have pics of the wheels mounted? What tires and size did you go with? Thanks!

[deathray]

Originally Posted by bobblehead

That would be one sick set of wheels ... btw, I thought you're going to park your M5 for the winter and go with X5 as your winter daily drive.

Do post your Arkym ... thanks !

I have it parked right now until I get the wheels on and I do drive the X5M when the weather is really bad, but, I only drive it when I really have to because Im just not that much a fan of AWD. For most of this winter Ive been driving my E60. I really ought to do a review/comparison between the F10 and E60.

[AGS]

Originally Posted by Charlie Brown

AGS, Do you have pics of the wheels mounted? What tires and size did you go with? Thanks!

I'll post them next week. I'm down in Austin for the F1 race and they're on the computer at home.

I used 255/40s on all 4 corners.

[Charlie Brown]

Originally Posted by AGS

I'll post them next week. I'm down in Austin for the F1 race and they're on the computer at home.

I used 255/40s on all 4 corners.

Thanks.. What brand tires? Enjoy the race! I'm jealous!

[AGS]

Originally Posted by Charlie Brown

Thanks.. What brand tires? Enjoy the race! I'm jealous!

Bridgestone Blizzacks. They worked great on my E60 M5, so hopeful that they'll perform as well on the F10.

On the bus now heading to the track. So pumped!

[remmib]

Originally Posted by Poleposition

245's wont fit the front rims as per Michelin.

Here in Europe you can get the Pilot Alpin PA4 in both 255/35/20 and 265/35/20, but with a W-speed rating.

[Charlie Brown]

Originally Posted by Charlie Brown

I decided to order the BMW winter wheel and tire package for the M5 from my local dealer today. Rims are 19x9 (408s) and closely resemble the 20" factory wheels. Tires are Dunlap Winter Sports size 255 40s. The Package Cost me $3,650.72 including tax. I also confirmed that because these are factory supplied wheels and tires that the wheel/tire warranty I purchased for my original wheels/tires also covers the winter setup. Your thoughts on the setup and price?

Turns out the package includes Pirelli 255/40R19 Sottozero S2, TPS sensors and is covered under my wheel and tire protection. Thanks.

[deathray]

Originally Posted by deathray

I have a set of the Arkym J12's on the way from PYSpeed. They were test fitted by HRE, so, Im pretty optimistic. I was actually going to hold off posting until I got them here and installed, but, since there are so few options available, I figured Id let you folks know the way Im going.

Ill keep everyone posted as to how things go and post some pics when the wheels get onto the car (assuming I can find a day where the roads are clean enough to actually drive the car into the dealership with my summers).

And back to the drawing board we go. I was informed today that HRE made a bit of a boo-boo on their first test fit. When they used the correct wheel profile - suprise, suprise - the 19" wheels didnt fit over the brakes. Im considering just giving up and buying an OEM set (I just find it revolting that they are $900+ per rim here in Canada).

[bobblehead]

Oh! Not again!

How come the other known Arkym set with 19" (as confirmed by PYSpeed) has positive fitment ? I do see that set has a much different offset, pehaps, HRE can use that offset instead.

As for stock 19", you should consider buying them in the US, if you don't want to buy them in Canada. I prev. indicated Maranello BMW here in Ontario will sell and ship you the entire set. For the 345M with proper 19" f & r wheels, they are $3000 + 13% taxes (for Ont). If buying in US, after factoring in all duties, taxes, shipping, you would still save ... probably in the range of $400 -$500 (for set of 4)

Originally Posted by deathray

And back to the drawing board we go. I was informed today that HRE made a bit of a boo-boo on their first test fit. When they used the correct wheel profile - suprise, suprise - the 19" wheels didnt fit over the brakes. Im considering just giving up and buying an OEM set (I just find it revolting that they are $900+ per rim here in Canada).

[deathray]

Originally Posted by bobblehead

How come the other known Arkym set with 19" (as confirmed by PYSpeed) has positive fitment ? I do see that set has a much different offset, pehaps, HRE can use that offset instead.

I was working with PYSpeed to get this done, HRE sent them the wrong info. I was actually sort of surprised when they said it would work. From the picture it looks like the Arkym profile is a drop center. I dont think you can make a 19" drop center that has the inner clearance we require.

[bobblehead]

This has to be the most difficult case of buying aftermarket wheels you & I (perhaps others as well) have ever experienced.

At least you have a backup suv for winter use for now !


[quote=deathray;13026258]

Originally Posted by bobblehead

How come the other known Arkym set with 19" (as confirmed by PYSpeed) has positive fitment ? I do see that set has a much different offset, pehaps, HRE can use that offset instead.
QUOTE]

I was working with PYSpeed to get this done, HRE sent them the wrong info. I was actually sort of surprised when they said it would work. From the picture it looks like the Arkym profile is a drop center. I dont think you can make a 19" drop center that has the inner clearance we require.

[deathray]

Another update for everyone following this saga: HRE has NO 19" profiles that will fit the F10 M5 (as far as I know, this includes the private labels they make as well), so, if anyone is selling you something HRE built and claiming otherwise, check and re-check.

[mwlmd]

Agree this is a major pain. It almost makes me think that 19" wheels are really not meant for this car.

I finally received my set of OEM 408m wheels with sottozeros.

Not the most exciting wheels I've purchased but at least they fit!!!