Tuned BMW F10 M5 (PP Performance) vs. Ferrari 458 on Yas Marina Track - M5POST

sham · 07-29-2012, 03:05 PM

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Hi guys,

I wanted to share this video of Mathias from Grip (a German TV show) being challenged in Abu-dhabi on the Yas marina circuit. He drives a tuned F10 M5 against a Ferrari 458. Closer than you might think!

The M5 is tuned by PP-Performance to 640HP and 780 NM torque. Goes from 0-100kmh in 3.9 seconds and 310kmh top speed.

Here's the whole episode: http://rtl2now.rtl2.de/grip-das-moto...yer=1&season=0

sham · 07-29-2012, 03:20 PM

and look at minute 9:15
This is what happens to a 200.000 euros ferrari 458 after 2 laps....
no comment

nyamg · 07-29-2012, 05:06 PM

I'm shocked, I've driven the 458 on track, and can tell you it is truly amazing....I really can't believe that the M5 even came close????

ThunderM5 · 07-29-2012, 09:36 PM

I have both the M5 and a 458, (and a GT-R), and as much as I like the M5 and think it performs well (for a 4300 pound family sedan), the two cars are not even close on the track (or anywhere else). I do not understand German, so do not know if they explained certain circumstances in that test, but the 458 iw WAAY faster on the straights, and corners much better.
On the track that I drive the 458 is about 10% faster at the end of each straight compared to the M5. In fact, the 458 is faster than the GT-R by a significant amount on the straights, but the GT-R is faster on the curves.

M5 - 1/4 mile - 12 seconds at 122-124 mph. G force in cornering .90-.95.

458 - 1/4 mile - 11 seconds at 129 mph. G force in cornering easily over 1 G.

nyamg · 07-29-2012, 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThunderM5

I have both the M5 and a 458, (and a GT-R), and as much as I like the M5 and think it performs well (for a 4300 pound family sedan), the two cars are not even close on the track (or anywhere else). I do not understand German, so do not know if they explained certain circumstances in that test, but the 458 iw WAAY faster on the straights, and corners much better.
On the track that I drive the 458 is about 10% faster at the end of each straight compared to the M5. In fact, the 458 is faster than the GT-R by a significant amount on the straights, but the GT-R is faster on the curves.

M5 - 1/4 mile - 12 seconds at 122-124 mph. G force in cornering .90-.95.

458 - 1/4 mile - 11 seconds at 129 mph. G force in cornering easily over 1 G.

Have to agree here, I have yet to drive the M5 but there's absolutely no way that the M5 can keep up with the 458. The 458 on track is simply brilliant!!

sham · 07-30-2012, 01:05 AM

guys, just to remind you: they said the M5 was tuned by pp-performance to 620HP and 750 NM. I dont know if such a tuning would help the M5 keep up with the ferrari.

thepest · 07-30-2012, 09:19 AM

So, finally some Grip in this forum. Regardless of the "german" problem..

Great episode, some really nice x6m action before the m5.

hoonix · 07-30-2012, 09:33 AM

here's the x6m action mentioned before...
what a beast

//edit:

and here is part2 where he challenges the SL 65 AMG black series of the president's son

BMWI6 · 07-30-2012, 09:33 AM

VERY Impressive!! That M5 dominated, and to those saying how the 458 is faster etc.... Let me remind you that the M5 is a family sedan costing less than half of what the Ferrari costs. If I was Ferrari I would be very embarrassed after this video especially at 9:15. Great job BMW M. Now if the M5 sounded like the 458, then it would be too perfect.

MPower10s · 07-30-2012, 09:36 AM

ive driven a 458 around a track and there is no way that even a tuned 4k+ lbs. sedan can keep up with it. either the guy driving the ferarri was babying it or bmw has made the performance bargain of the century

buckeyede06 · 07-30-2012, 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sham

guys, just to remind you: they said the M5 was tuned by pp-performance to 620HP and 750 NM. I dont know if such a tuning would help the M5 keep up with the ferrari.

Ya some people are not reading the post...

Just quick to comment on how many awesome cars they have lol.

buckeyede06 · 07-30-2012, 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MPower10s

ive driven a 458 around a track and there is no way that even a tuned 4k+ lbs. sedan can keep up with it. either the guy driving the ferarri was babying it or bmw has made the performance bargain of the century

With the tune it is putting out more torque and HP than the 458. It is heavier so it actually works out to be very close.

S3RI35 · 07-30-2012, 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buckeyede06

With the tune it is putting out more torque and HP than the 458. It is heavier so it actually works out to be very close.

+1

not an expert here, but it also seemed like the driver of the 458 did not really drive the car to its fullest potential. There were a couple corners that he completely missed the apex and went really wide.

All in all, worth the 10 minutes even though it was in German. Guess the 458 owners should walk with a bottle of coolant each time they hit the track!!

v1p3r · 07-30-2012, 09:50 AM

LOL @ people commenting that an ///M5 won't be able to keep up...it just did. In front of your very eyes.

Even the 458 instructor was dumbstruck by how the 600kg heavier ///M5 was so hard to get away from, even if it was tuned with 60 horses more. That is impressive as f.

If I were a Ferrari driver and a (mildly) tuned ///M5 family sedan hung on to my supercar like that I'd feel a bit sheepish...

I say mildly because even G-Power's Stage 1 tune pushes the ///M5 to 640 hp / 575 lb-ft torque (780Nm) +80hp / 74lb-ft

Grip has excellent videos, the 800PS G-Power E63 ///M6 is one of my favourites ever.

Well done PP Performance. Can only imagine what else you can do to the ///M5 and ///M6 with a bit more extensive work (which will undoubtedly cost less than a 458)

thepest · 07-30-2012, 09:52 AM

Here's the whole episode

http://rtl2now.rtl2.de/grip-das-moto...yer=1&season=0

Mr. ///M3 RD · 07-30-2012, 10:07 AM

In my humble opinion it all depends on the driver and the experience. Nice track and video clip, however, put a different driver in the Ferrari and he would have left the M5 further behind then was the case in this video clip.

Still thanks for sharing the clip, nice footage.

misterbeemer · 07-30-2012, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMWI6

VERY Impressive!! That M5 dominated, and to those saying how the 458 is faster etc.... Let me remind you that the M5 is a family sedan costing less than half of what the Ferrari costs. If I was Ferrari I would be very embarrassed after this video especially at 9:15. Great job BMW M. Now if the M5 sounded like the 458, then it would be too perfect.

Hey man...read the post. The M5 was performance tuned and not stock. Stop gloating. OK thanks. No BMW is a match for any Ferrari.

Elsabor67 · 07-30-2012, 10:43 AM

I saw the show yesterday and it was awesome to see when they had the X6M on the dyno and blasting out fireballs after the pulls. Funny to see the testfahrer from the show get flashed by the cops at over 300KPH

. That X6M was a beast!!!

The M5 and Ferrari segment was very good also. Not so surprised that the Ferrari overheated in that 110f plus weather.

Vmax222 · 07-30-2012, 10:47 AM

they say that the naturally aspirated engine of the Ferrari is struggling with power loss because of the sweltering heat.

Track temperature is about 65 degrees Celsius.

K3N R3D · 07-30-2012, 11:01 AM

I'm sorry but first of all are these two guys professional racers? With all the drifting around the track its hard to really take this race seriously. I can tell the M5 has much more power than stock but I need to see a proper race, done by equally qualified professional racers to really see the outcome. This test seems to be more for entertainment than numbers.

All that being said...WOW!!! That M5 is a Beast!

Anyone have an english subtitle version?

335dM · 07-30-2012, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nyamg

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThunderM5

I have both the M5 and a 458, (and a GT-R), and as much as I like the M5 and think it performs well (for a 4300 pound family sedan), the two cars are not even close on the track (or anywhere else). I do not understand German, so do not know if they explained certain circumstances in that test, but the 458 iw WAAY faster on the straights, and corners much better.
On the track that I drive the 458 is about 10% faster at the end of each straight compared to the M5. In fact, the 458 is faster than the GT-R by a significant amount on the straights, but the GT-R is faster on the curves.

M5 - 1/4 mile - 12 seconds at 122-124 mph. G force in cornering .90-.95.

458 - 1/4 mile - 11 seconds at 129 mph. G force in cornering easily over 1 G.

Have to agree here, I have yet to drive the M5 but there's absolutely no way that the M5 can keep up with the 458. The 458 on track is simply brilliant!!

Well.... It does come very close ! Haven't you watch the vid. Lol
M5 with a tune is another car

TommyAD · 07-30-2012, 11:29 AM

Hi guys,

im Thomas from PP-Performance.

I just would like to give you some more facts.

First of all our M5 F10 has 640hp and 780nm.
Second there might be a differance between your location and ours here in Abu Dhabi, at the moment we have 45-50+ degrees that means on the track 60+!

Yes both drivers are professional racers.

If you have more questions about our Company, Cars, Software or anything else, feel free to contact me. tk@pp-performance.ae

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sham Private Drives: BMW M5 F10; Z4 E89 28i Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Warsaw, Poland Posts: 65 iTrader: (0)	Tuned BMW F10 M5 (PP Performance) vs. Ferrari 458 on Yas Marina Track Featured on BIMMERPOST.com Hi guys, I wanted to share this video of Mathias from Grip (a German TV show) being challenged in Abu-dhabi on the Yas marina circuit. He drives a tuned F10 M5 against a Ferrari 458. Closer than you might think! The M5 is tuned by PP-Performance to 640HP and 780 NM torque. Goes from 0-100kmh in 3.9 seconds and 310kmh top speed. Here's the whole episode: http://rtl2now.rtl2.de/grip-das-moto...yer=1&season=0 Last edited by sham; 07-29-2012 at 03:05 PM. Reason: tipo
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07-29-2012, 05:06 PM	#3
nyamg Private First Class Drives: Porsche 997 Turbo Join Date: May 2012 Location: New York Posts: 128 iTrader: (0)	I'm shocked, I've driven the 458 on track, and can tell you it is truly amazing....I really can't believe that the M5 even came close???? __________________ -------- 2013 M5 2007 911 TURBO 2011 LEXUS LX570 2009 BMW X5 4.8

07-30-2012, 09:33 AM	#8
hoonix New Member Drives: 318i E90 LCI 2011 MSport Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Austria, Burgenland Posts: 8 iTrader: (0)	here's the x6m action mentioned before... what a beast //edit: and here is part2 where he challenges the SL 65 AMG black series of the president's son Last edited by hoonix; 07-30-2012 at 09:53 AM.

07-30-2012, 09:33 AM	#9
BMWI6 Major Drives: 335is Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Miami, Fl Posts: 1,314 iTrader: (2)	VERY Impressive!! That M5 dominated, and to those saying how the 458 is faster etc.... Let me remind you that the M5 is a family sedan costing less than half of what the Ferrari costs. If I was Ferrari I would be very embarrassed after this video especially at 9:15. Great job BMW M. Now if the M5 sounded like the 458, then it would be too perfect. __________________ If everything seems under control, then you aren't going fast enough"

07-30-2012, 09:36 AM	#10
MPower10s Private First Class Drives: '11 Le Mans Blue 328i M-Sport Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Delray Beach, FL Posts: 104 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2011 BMW 328i M-Sport [4.50]	ive driven a 458 around a track and there is no way that even a tuned 4k+ lbs. sedan can keep up with it. either the guy driving the ferarri was babying it or bmw has made the performance bargain of the century __________________

07-29-2012, 03:20 PM	#2
sham Private Drives: BMW M5 F10; Z4 E89 28i Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Warsaw, Poland Posts: 65 iTrader: (0)	and look at minute 9:15 This is what happens to a 200.000 euros ferrari 458 after 2 laps.... no comment

07-29-2012, 09:36 PM	#4
ThunderM5 Registered Drives: 2012 M5, 2012 GT-R, 2011 SLS Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: North America Posts: 1 iTrader: (0)	I have both the M5 and a 458, (and a GT-R), and as much as I like the M5 and think it performs well (for a 4300 pound family sedan), the two cars are not even close on the track (or anywhere else). I do not understand German, so do not know if they explained certain circumstances in that test, but the 458 iw WAAY faster on the straights, and corners much better. On the track that I drive the 458 is about 10% faster at the end of each straight compared to the M5. In fact, the 458 is faster than the GT-R by a significant amount on the straights, but the GT-R is faster on the curves. M5 - 1/4 mile - 12 seconds at 122-124 mph. G force in cornering .90-.95. 458 - 1/4 mile - 11 seconds at 129 mph. G force in cornering easily over 1 G.

07-30-2012, 01:05 AM	#6
sham Private Drives: BMW M5 F10; Z4 E89 28i Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Warsaw, Poland Posts: 65 iTrader: (0)	guys, just to remind you: they said the M5 was tuned by pp-performance to 620HP and 750 NM. I dont know if such a tuning would help the M5 keep up with the ferrari.

07-30-2012, 09:19 AM	#7
thepest Private First Class Drives: Alfa Romeo 145 QV Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Europe Posts: 108 iTrader: (0)	So, finally some Grip in this forum. Regardless of the "german" problem.. Great episode, some really nice x6m action before the m5.

07-30-2012, 09:50 AM	#14
v1p3r Private First Class Drives: E46 330i Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Cape Town, South Africa Posts: 168 iTrader: (0)	LOL @ people commenting that an ///M5 won't be able to keep up...it just did. In front of your very eyes. Even the 458 instructor was dumbstruck by how the 600kg heavier ///M5 was so hard to get away from, even if it was tuned with 60 horses more. That is impressive as f. If I were a Ferrari driver and a (mildly) tuned ///M5 family sedan hung on to my supercar like that I'd feel a bit sheepish... I say mildly because even G-Power's Stage 1 tune pushes the ///M5 to 640 hp / 575 lb-ft torque (780Nm) +80hp / 74lb-ft Grip has excellent videos, the 800PS G-Power E63 ///M6 is one of my favourites ever. Well done PP Performance. Can only imagine what else you can do to the ///M5 and ///M6 with a bit more extensive work (which will undoubtedly cost less than a 458) __________________ 2000 E46 330i STEPTRONIC \|Titanium Silver\|

07-30-2012, 09:52 AM	#15
thepest Private First Class Drives: Alfa Romeo 145 QV Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Europe Posts: 108 iTrader: (0)	Here's the whole episode http://rtl2now.rtl2.de/grip-das-moto...yer=1&season=0

07-30-2012, 10:07 AM	#16
Mr. ///M3 RD Major General Drives: M3 Summer & C350 4MATIC Winter Join Date: May 2010 Location: GTA, Ontario - Canada Posts: 7,539 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2011 M3 Coupe e92 [3.00] 2011 Benz 350 4MATIC [1.00] 1967 Restored Merce ... [0.00] 1987 BMW 535is [0.50] Cars from the Past [1.50] The ///M3 Engine S65 [3.50]	In my humble opinion it all depends on the driver and the experience. Nice track and video clip, however, put a different driver in the Ferrari and he would have left the M5 further behind then was the case in this video clip. Still thanks for sharing the clip, nice footage. __________________ Cheers, Rolf-Dieter Life will take us to some interesting places, fortunately The ///M3 will too with a many of us know this very well ---> Click here for some good stuff I found

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Elsabor67 aiming for 450..... Drives: La Jeva ;-) Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Stuttgart, Ge :-) Posts: 2,282 iTrader: (18) Garage List 2009 135i [5.00]	I saw the show yesterday and it was awesome to see when they had the X6M on the dyno and blasting out fireballs after the pulls. Funny to see the testfahrer from the show get flashed by the cops at over 300KPH . That X6M was a beast!!! The M5 and Ferrari segment was very good also. Not so surprised that the Ferrari overheated in that 110f plus weather. __________________ Quote from Ezeedee regarding car mods: "you're only done when you sell the car "

07-30-2012, 10:47 AM	#19
Vmax222 New Member Drives: E90 325i Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 12 iTrader: (0)	they say that the naturally aspirated engine of the Ferrari is struggling with power loss because of the sweltering heat. Track temperature is about 65 degrees Celsius.

07-30-2012, 11:01 AM	#20
K3N R3D Lieutenant Colonel Drives: Z4 3.0si Coupe Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: West Palm Beach Posts: 1,562 iTrader: (0)	I'm sorry but first of all are these two guys professional racers? With all the drifting around the track its hard to really take this race seriously. I can tell the M5 has much more power than stock but I need to see a proper race, done by equally qualified professional racers to really see the outcome. This test seems to be more for entertainment than numbers. All that being said...WOW!!! That M5 is a Beast! Anyone have an english subtitle version? __________________ ------------------------------------------------ When the voice and the vision on the inside, become more profound than the opinions and pictures on the outside...You've mastered your life!

07-30-2012, 11:29 AM	#22
TommyAD Enlisted Member Drives: X6M Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Abu Dhabi Posts: 40 iTrader: (0)	Hi guys, im Thomas from PP-Performance. I just would like to give you some more facts. First of all our M5 F10 has 640hp and 780nm. Second there might be a differance between your location and ours here in Abu Dhabi, at the moment we have 45-50+ degrees that means on the track 60+! Yes both drivers are professional racers. If you have more questions about our Company, Cars, Software or anything else, feel free to contact me. tk@pp-performance.ae

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