Start/Stop - M5POST

PatrickC23 · 11-28-2012, 03:05 PM

Why have cars adopted the Start/Stop buttons? Are there advantages, or just a cool thing to have.

bobblehead · 11-28-2012, 03:08 PM

objective is to save fuel (mainly for local high traffic situation)

Should have never put this in for the M5 ... who would care fuel economy knowing horsepower is the utmost concern to the average M5 owners

mwlmd · 11-28-2012, 03:23 PM

Are you referring to the engine start/stop button or the fuel-saving start-stop technology?

puffysheep · 11-28-2012, 03:29 PM

If this feature bothers you, you can turn it off.
As long as you have this feature turned off and turn your ignition off, M5 remembers your last setting when you drive again so that you don't have to turn it off everytime.

PatrickC23 · 11-28-2012, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by mwlmd

Are you referring to the engine start/stop button or the fuel-saving start-stop technology?

Im referring to the actual stop start button. Was just curious, I think its really cool, but didnt know if it served a purpose.

WCH · 11-28-2012, 04:15 PM

It does save fuel - I have it in my ML63. Since you can now turn it off and have it stay off, it is a useful feature. In city traffic, I could almost see the fuel needle go down in my old E70 X5 4.8. In those situations it is unlikely that you will be able to use the potential of the M5 so saving a bit of fuel seems like a good thing.

nugent · 11-28-2012, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Patsc23

Im referring to the actual stop start button. Was just curious, I think its really cool, but didnt know if it served a purpose.

there is very compelling data on how many finger sprains are prevented by replacing the ignition key with a button.

Mperial · 11-28-2012, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by nugent

there is very compelling data on how many finger sprains are prevented by replacing the ignition key with a button.

mwlmd · 11-28-2012, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Patsc23

Im referring to the actual stop start button. Was just curious, I think its really cool, but didnt know if it served a purpose.

I think it is designed to compliment the "keyless go or comfort access" feature.

Key stays in your pocket etc.

Apart from that and the obvious finger strain of key turning, I can't think of other advantages.

boots · 11-30-2012, 01:27 PM

It will develope into the george jetson syndrom LOL

lumberman · 11-30-2012, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by puffysheep

If this feature bothers you, you can turn it off.
As long as you have this feature turned off and turn your ignition off, M5 remembers your last setting when you drive again so that you don't have to turn it off everytime.

I guess every country configuration is different, mine is turned ON everytime I start the car, I have to turn it off every single time!

M-bitious · 12-01-2012, 03:34 AM

There are several reasons why manufacturers have moved to buttons. The first is that many people simply don't know how to start a car properly with a key. They turn the key too long and I have heard the grinding noice more often than not. A push button makes a perfect start. The second is that we are trying to move away from keys all together. In a collission you may hit your knee against the key. This is also the reason why the M5 now has keyless start and we have that small hole between the cupholders to store the key in. Some of you may not even have located it yet.

As far as the fuel saving start/stop is concerned, together with the turbo technology, the car has been developed to have much lower emissions. In my country this is rewarded with less tax on the purchase price. The new M5 is therefore about 30,000 Euro cheaper than the old E60 M5. In Europe you can't set that system to OFF all the time (in D mode), where in the States you can.

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bobblehead Colonel Drives: warp speed Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Toronto, On Posts: 2,614 iTrader: (0)	objective is to save fuel (mainly for local high traffic situation) Should have never put this in for the M5 ... who would care fuel economy knowing horsepower is the utmost concern to the average M5 owners

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puffysheep Private Drives: 2013 BMW M5 Join Date: May 2012 Location: New York Posts: 61 iTrader: (0)	If this feature bothers you, you can turn it off. As long as you have this feature turned off and turn your ignition off, M5 remembers your last setting when you drive again so that you don't have to turn it off everytime.

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boots Lieutenant Drives: 2013 Bmw m5 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Houston Posts: 518 iTrader: (0)	It will develope into the george jetson syndrom LOL

12-01-2012, 03:34 AM	#12
M-bitious Second Lieutenant Drives: BMW F10 M5 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 224 iTrader: (0)	There are several reasons why manufacturers have moved to buttons. The first is that many people simply don't know how to start a car properly with a key. They turn the key too long and I have heard the grinding noice more often than not. A push button makes a perfect start. The second is that we are trying to move away from keys all together. In a collission you may hit your knee against the key. This is also the reason why the M5 now has keyless start and we have that small hole between the cupholders to store the key in. Some of you may not even have located it yet. As far as the fuel saving start/stop is concerned, together with the turbo technology, the car has been developed to have much lower emissions. In my country this is rewarded with less tax on the purchase price. The new M5 is therefore about 30,000 Euro cheaper than the old E60 M5. In Europe you can't set that system to OFF all the time (in D mode), where in the States you can.