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      12-23-2012, 09:37 PM   #1
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Observations - so far....

So I am 5 weeks and 1,500 miles into my F10 M5 and thought I would share my thoughts.

It is helpful to note that I am coming from an E90 M3 for the past 3 years and E92 M3 Frozen Black garage queen, before that was an 05 E60 545i 6 speed, 01 E39 M5 and 97 E36 M3/4. Additionally, my father has a 10 X6M Dinan that I have a lot of seat miles in.

So my observations in no particular order ---

1. This car is FAST – scary FAST.
2. This car is big; obviously bigger than my E90 & E92 M3’s and feels bigger than my E60 545i and E39 M5
3. I think I like the E60 design/look better – don’t shoot me!
4. I wish the hood had a unique feature to differentiate it from other 5’s.
5. The technology in the car is amazing – not sure the Drivers Assistance Package is worth it – the side and top camera’s are, not sure about the rest.
6. The way it reads the “speed limit” through the connected drive is pretty cool.
7. What this car is “recording” about my driving is something I try not to think about.
8. DCT is amazing – prior to my E90 & E92 all my car’s had manuals and wouldn’t go back for all the tea in China – I don’t understand the whole “connected” argument guys make, but to each his own.
9. The DCT paddles are horrible – they feel short & awkward – why they didn’t use the paddles from the M3 & X6M is beyond me. They feel like the normal paddle shifters for a slush box - this is probably my biggest complaint at this point.
10. I love the “wheel button” on the steering wheel so that you can see what is playing on the radio/mp3 etc.
11. Getting surprisingly good gas mileage – way better than the E90/92
12. I love the “two kick” to open the trunk – very helpful!
13. Piano Black FTW!!!
14. I like my Akrapovic exhaust, although not as much as my Eisenmann Sport on my E90. Normally aspirated is just better than Twin Turbo!!
15. I wish I had more seat travel – I am 6’5” and my E90 gives me more leg room.
16. The HUD is awesome! A great improvement over the X6M and E60 545i
17. OMG, the brake dust is unlike any other car I have had.
18. All M cars should have an alcantara head liner!
19. See #1 – this car is FAST
20. Oil, it’s drinking oil – will be interesting to see if this lasts. This was not an issue with the X6M
21. Sakhir Orange is awesome; I get allsorts of thumbs up!
22. This Board is awesome for all the information and helpful tips!
23. I have a hard time differentiating a new 3, 5 or 7 when I see others on the road.
24. Glad I didn’t spend the $$ on the B&O
25. Loving my Modulare B18’s – a professional photo shoot was yesterday!!
26. Big SHOUT OUT to IND for their cosmetic package!!!
27. I wish you could get the Carbon Fiber roof from the factory!
28. That's all I can think of at the moment…..

Please feel free to add to the list.....
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      12-23-2012, 10:25 PM   #2
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Great list! Agree with you on the paddles - they need to be taller, like the M6 paddles.

Also, your B18s are my current favorite aftermarket wheel. Beautiful car dude!
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Great list!! Your #9 is a reason to go back to manual like you state in #8

I myself have about the same amount of miles, 1800 and I love and hug and kiss myself everyday for getting the 6MT. I get in my wife's automatic and I want to drive that 535 (2011) into a canal because I love the manual trans so much.

You forgot one, 3rd gear is the most fun and absolutely crazy... At least in the MT, 3rd gear makes me grin from ear to ear
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      12-24-2012, 08:45 AM   #4
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This is my first M car so I dont have too much to compare it to from previous years or other M cars. I did own a E63 AMG two cars before the M. The one observation is that the AMG felt cheap and felt like a E350 with a bigger engine. Owning a 2012 535xi and now the M5 I will have to say they are night and day.

I dont think I will ever deviate from owning a M5
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      12-24-2012, 10:48 AM   #5
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So I am 5 weeks and 1,500 miles into my F10 M5 and thought I would share my thoughts.

It is helpful to note that I am coming from an E90 M3 for the past 3 years and E92 M3 Frozen Black garage queen, before that was an 05 E60 545i 6 speed, 01 E39 M5 and 97 E36 M3/4. Additionally, my father has a 10 X6M Dinan that I have a lot of seat miles in.

So my observations in no particular order ---

1. This car is FAST – scary FAST.
2. This car is big; obviously bigger than my E90 & E92 M3’s and feels bigger than my E60 545i and E39 M5
3. I think I like the E60 design/look better – don’t shoot me!
4. I wish the hood had a unique feature to differentiate it from other 5’s.
5. The technology in the car is amazing – not sure the Drivers Assistance Package is worth it – the side and top camera’s are, not sure about the rest.
6. The way it reads the “speed limit” through the connected drive is pretty cool.
7. What this car is “recording” about my driving is something I try not to think about.
8. DCT is amazing – prior to my E90 & E92 all my car’s had manuals and wouldn’t go back for all the tea in China – I don’t understand the whole “connected” argument guys make, but to each his own.
9. The DCT paddles are horrible – they feel short & awkward – why they didn’t use the paddles from the M3 & X6M is beyond me. They feel like the normal paddle shifters for a slush box - this is probably my biggest complaint at this point.
10. I love the “wheel button” on the steering wheel so that you can see what is playing on the radio/mp3 etc.
11. Getting surprisingly good gas mileage – way better than the E90/92
12. I love the “two kick” to open the trunk – very helpful!
13. Piano Black FTW!!!
14. I like my Akrapovic exhaust, although not as much as my Eisenmann Sport on my E90. Normally aspirated is just better than Twin Turbo!!
15. I wish I had more seat travel – I am 6’5” and my E90 gives me more leg room.
16. The HUD is awesome! A great improvement over the X6M and E60 545i
17. OMG, the brake dust is unlike any other car I have had.
18. All M cars should have an alcantara head liner!
19. See #1 – this car is FAST
20. Oil, it’s drinking oil – will be interesting to see if this lasts. This was not an issue with the X6M
21. Sakhir Orange is awesome; I get allsorts of thumbs up!
22. This Board is awesome for all the information and helpful tips!
23. I have a hard time differentiating a new 3, 5 or 7 when I see others on the road.
24. Glad I didn’t spend the $$ on the B&O
25. Loving my Modulare B18’s – a professional photo shoot was yesterday!!
26. Big SHOUT OUT to IND for their cosmetic package!!!
27. I wish you could get the Carbon Fiber roof from the factory!
28. That's all I can think of at the moment…..

Please feel free to add to the list.....
Nice! I agree with almost everything here.

I especially agree with #3.

I don't quite understand what you mean by #7. The E60 M5 also recorded pretty much everything the engine was doing.

I agree with #9 as well. I liked the Paddles better in the E60 M5, they were even lighted. Instead we get the same shift paddles that are on the freakin F10 550i!

#17, yeah the break dust is pretty insane! Luckily I opti-coated my entire wheels with heavy applications of the opti-coat and most of the break dust now comes off with a a strong application of high pressure water.

#24, I don't agree with. The B&O was worth every penny to me. Especially since I paid way less for it by doing Euro Delivery.

#21, yeah sometimes I wish I had gotten a more bright color. My Sapphire Black definitely hides the lines of the F10, which are subtle enough. At least on the E60 M5, it had sharp enough lines that Sapphire Black didn't really hide anything. Sakhir Orange was on my list of color choices too. Maybe I'll get it on my 2017 F10 M5.
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I also love the car and find it to be a totally different feel from my M3. Here's my short list:
  • Love the looks
  • Love the power
  • Love the B&O
  • Love the new electronics
  • Love the new features, like soft close doors
  • Love the 4 doors, for a daily driver
  • 350 miles per tank is a nice change
  • Seat comfort is crazy good
  • I don't burn any oil. Haven't added a drop in 4600 miles
  • Love the sound of my Meisterschaft Exhaust
  • Love the drop of H&R springs
  • Love the black out trim kit from IND
  • Love the surprise I have coming... LOL
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i think you exceeded your use quota of the exclamation point in that post.
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Great stuff Bokke. I have an E90 M3 and I am considering the change too.

How much better is the gas mileage? Can you quantify a bit? I am at 14.5 mpg right now all the time in the city.
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i think you exceeded your use quota of the exclamation point in that post.
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Great stuff Bokke. I have an E90 M3 and I am considering the change too.

How much better is the gas mileage? Can you quantify a bit? I am at 14.5 mpg right now all the time in the city.
So far I am getting around 17mpg at about 65% city / 35% highway - that is up from about 14 in the E90.

The larger gas tank is a nice plus as well.
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