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      02-04-2013, 02:54 PM   #23
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OP lives in WV, may be driving in the mountains with all seasons on 20's and does not have very savvy CA's. 19" 255/40 winters all around and some weight and should work pretty well on most areas.
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I got the BMW winter wheels and tire package two weeks ago. Best money I have spent on this car to date for mods. I have no issues.

There was an issue getting the package from BMW due to part delays. This far into the season your dealer may be out of stock. This may be why he is telling you there are no options.

If you can't get them now pick them up in the summer. Night and day.
What are dealers charging for this setup? If you don't mind sharing.
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      02-04-2013, 03:19 PM   #25
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What are dealers charging for this setup? If you don't mind sharing.
For the OEM 408m (19" 255/40 all around) you are probably looking at around 3.5 to 4k with Pirelli Sottozeros. You may do better at bmwparts.com.

http://www.motorwerksbmwaccessorieso...ProductId=4135
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      02-04-2013, 03:27 PM   #26
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For the OEM 408m (19" 255/40 all around) you are probably looking at around 3.5 to 4k with Pirelli Sottozeros.
I think you can do less than that through Manny Assuncao at BMW of Roxbury (NJ) incl shipping.
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      02-04-2013, 04:45 PM   #27
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What are dealers charging for this setup? If you don't mind sharing.
I paid $3300 including winter storage for my 20's. This included all stems, TPMS, etc.
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      02-04-2013, 04:52 PM   #28
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Anyone here have experience with Blizzaks?
Yes, been running the for 3 or 4 seasons now. My experience has been positive, with decent performance both in dry conditions and snow. I have 19" 255/40s on all four corners.
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Drove from Milwaukee to Chicago in snow/ice storm last weekend with M winter 408 wheel& tire setup with Perrelli Sottozeros . No issues... The traction control systems on the M5 did a fantastic job.. I easily passed many SUVs with AWD on what I assume are all season tires. I did feel the traction control and stability control kick in several times but the car handled very well and was completely predictable. In case you think it was light ice, when I parked the car, the entire front number was covered in ice. So much so the front proximity sensors blared and lit up red when I put the car in reverse due to the packed ice covering the entire front of the car!
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I'm fortunate to have an extra car this winter so keeping the M5 garaged but will need winter wheels and tires next winter. Mine is also Azurite black, do you have any photos with the winter set up so I can see what it would look like?
If I could figure out how to post pics on this board I would. Good thing others have figured it out! Lol.

Advice is; get the 408s. Mine came with the Pirellis, look great for a "winter" combo and they actually ride better than my stock 20s w Michelin PS2s.
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      02-05-2013, 09:58 AM   #30
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Charlie Brown, go to imgur.com, upload your pictures and then post the links in here.
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Drove from Milwaukee to Chicago in snow/ice storm last weekend with M winter 408 wheel& tire setup with Perrelli Sottozeros . No issues... The traction control systems on the M5 did a fantastic job.. I easily passed many SUVs with AWD on what I assume are all season tires.
Funny - I have the same tires and with a very light foot and the power set to Efficient I still find the rear kicking out on almost every turn or acceleration from a stop; and the traction control light is on so often I'd almost think it's permanent.
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I asked one of my clients yesterday about how the BMW winter tires been so far this season on his F10 M5 and this is what he said.
**"As far as winter tires performance, honestly surprisingly good. Ice was no issue, snow probably up to about 5 inches or so has been no problem. From a standing start up a hill, it's a bit tricky, but still very doable. Even "goofing off" a bit, as long as the traction control was engaged, you had to really really push it to get it out of control, otherwise cornering I had a pretty confident feeling that I would be just fine. My only concern would be snow above say that 5 inches, i would be concern about the front of the car getting scraped up since the car sits pretty low."**
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Here you go... Close up of M408 19" winter wheels with Pirelli Sottozero 255 40s on Azurite Black F10 M5

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I got stuck in the Italian Alps with my summer performance tires. This was my solution.

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I got stuck in the Italian Alps with my summer performance tires. This was my solution.

Fantastic! I'd like to keep something like that in the trunk for those foul days...
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+1 for the F10 in snow

I ended up getting my winter set late (mid-december) so I did once drive the M5 in ice and snow on rather poor roads with the PSS'....I now think I know how Fred Flintstone would feel if he tried to drive in the winter.

With 19's and 245 PA4's, though, I am really happy with it. I actually prefer RWD to AWD in the winter because I find it much easier to recover after losing grip (granted its tougher to lose grip with AWD, but, it happens). Between the new diff and the extra weight I find it does better than my E60 in the winter as well. The one area where the E60 is better is clearance. My neighborhood gets some pretty bad ruts in the hard pack before the graders come out and I can feel the underside of the chin rub on some of the bumps. (I wonder if that actually is less clearance or more give in the suspension in comfort mode)
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Good to hear that the F10 is great in snow. I am currently driving a 2012 F01 750i xdrive (with Dinan) and thinking about pulling the trigger on an F10. One of my concerns is that where I live there are some very big hills (I live on the side of a mountain) and in the winter time, there is a chance we may get snow. Sometimes upwards of 5 inches if the plows don't come in time. I am worried about the F10 in the snow while going up and down a large hill.

Any experiences?
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What do you mean 'just a Subaru'?!
Best winter car bar none, with or without winter tyres.
I think that title still belongs to Audi
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