iND/AMS Alpha F10 M5 Tuning Program Testing and Datalogging Update. 1,000+ HP Goal! - Page 4 - M5POST

Timberwolf · 02-22-2013, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Ilia@IND

We will work with ESS to develop software specifically tailored to AMS hardware packages. In developing our F10 M5 project our goal was to partner with the best possible companies, to allow for the best possible M5. We feel that by putting all of the right people in the roles where they are most capable, we will be able to offer an excellent performance package for our clients.

Very interesting. I understand they are pretty far along the path towards tuning the beast.

dvpouldar26 · 02-22-2013, 04:31 PM

Seeing what AMS has recently done with the W212 E63, the main competitor to the F10, I can't wait to see what they're going to do with the M5. For those who don't know, they made 787whp with just a tune and upgrades turbos.....stock dp's, stock inlets, and stock exhaust. Can't wait to see what kind of power is going to be squeezed out of both these platforms.....job well done AMS!

W/// · 02-26-2013, 09:31 PM

^ Wow that's really impressive with the Benz.

Nate, can you comment on how hard it is to get to components for regular maintenance? I know these cars are obviously brand new, but I'd like to get an idea how they are to live with after their warranty run out. One of the main selling points for the E9x M3 for me is that they are quite DIY friendly. Would love to know about the F10 M5 as well.

BMRLVR · 03-01-2013, 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Ilia@IND

In our latest update, we can share a rendered drawing of the AMS catted downpipes!

Once again CAD proves to be an invaluable tool, helping the engineers at AMS position the downpipes within the engine bay before a single bead of weld is laid. This allows us to create the most generously sized downpipes with the smoother possible bends, resulting in the best possible exhaust flow.

The catalytic converters used in this application are ultra high flow race cats, which have been proven to offer plenty of exhaust flow well after the 900 horsepower mark. In testing a less than 1% reduction in horsepower was found when compared to a catless downpipe, on a car making a bit over 900 wheel horsepower.

A catless option will be offered as well, with our first prototypes being tested on our own IND F10 M5 in less than one month.

I am liking what I am seeing!!!! By the time I order up my new Individual M5 (probably within 2-3 years) you will have all of the R&D done and I can come down for a visit and we can make it FAST!!!!!!!!

Drm5 · 03-01-2013, 09:20 AM

I am here at Puerto Rico and I guess I will be scheduling my tune at predator were all the alpha kit are done for the gtr.....
Can't wait for your R&D to get done...

Jimefam · 03-20-2013, 11:40 PM

Been a month, bump for an update? I cant wait to see if ESS can come through on the tuning as it seems as if these bmw dme's are impossible to tune. Bunch of years since the N54 and S65 came out they still dont have full control. The hardware is the easy part imo.

bmwMcrzy · 03-21-2013, 12:06 AM

You're correct the hardware is "easy". A project of this scale may take up to a year.
Hopefully the tuning isn't the holdup.

TheStig · 03-21-2013, 12:57 PM

YES! This is gonna be intense!

Nate@IND · 03-26-2013, 05:04 PM

Just had my hands on a set of AMS F10 M5 downpipes today (catless)

Used2be · 03-26-2013, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Nate@IND

Just had my hands on a set of AMS F10 M5 downpipes today (catless)

Excellent! Glad to see the progress. Any update on the ESS software solutions for CEL worries and the elimination of the 155 mph speed limit? Will ceramic coating be available for the downpipes? Colors?

Timberwolf · 03-26-2013, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Nate@IND

Just had my hands on a set of AMS F10 M5 downpipes today (catless)

Some sexy looking pipes there. I'm sure that with a tune those will yield some pretty serious results!

bm5bullit · 03-26-2013, 07:01 PM

I think we are finally starting to see some competition as well as some innovation for the twin-turbo V8. Top quality work Nate.

mkPOTO · 03-26-2013, 07:31 PM

awesome update IND

Nate@IND · 03-27-2013, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Used2be

Excellent! Glad to see the progress. Any update on the ESS software solutions for CEL worries and the elimination of the 155 mph speed limit? Will ceramic coating be available for the downpipes? Colors?

AJ from ESS will be at AMS shortly and a ceramic coat option will be available. We are set to unveil the iND F10 M5 at Bimmerfest 2013 in May.

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Originally Posted by Timberwolf

Some sexy looking pipes there. I'm sure that with a tune those will yield some pretty serious results!

Some big power coming!

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Originally Posted by bm5bullit

I think we are finally starting to see some competition as well as some innovation for the twin-turbo V8. Top quality work Nate.

I'll have an update on the turbos soon

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Originally Posted by mkPOTO

awesome update IND

Thanks! Stop by when the beast is back from AMS.

Timberwolf · 03-28-2013, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Nate@IND

Thanks! Stop by when the beast is back from AMS.

When?!

GhanemMBN · 03-29-2013, 10:39 AM

Will there be a 1/4 mile run after the tuning program is completed? It's interesting to see dragtimes, it really shows the power the car delivers

Nate@IND · 03-29-2013, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by GhanemMBN

Will there be a 1/4 mile run after the tuning program is completed? It's interesting to see dragtimes, it really shows the power the car delivers

Correct there will be drag times/track times and dyno's posted.

GhanemMBN · 03-29-2013, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Nate@IND

Correct there will be drag times/track times and dyno's posted.

Wish you guys all the best of luck! Cant wait to see your project

MasterDank · 04-03-2013, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Nate@IND

Correct there will be drag times/track times and dyno's posted.

Hey my Down pipes never showed up yet! Did you send them to the wrong address Nate?......:lol

I wanna join the Party!:

The turbo side looks like a blunder bust or some old gun...

Aloha
Alex

qdtjant · 04-23-2013, 02:45 AM

Any progress ??

bm5bullit · 04-23-2013, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by qdtjant

Any progress ??

What he said.

Ilia@IND · 05-10-2013, 06:10 PM

Our turbos will be here in another 3-4 weeks, at which point the car will spend some time with ESS in Arizona.

For now, here's a preview photo of our production version AMS downpipes:

02-22-2013, 04:31 PM	#68
dvpouldar26 Major Drives: 2008 e92 328i, Porsche 987.1 Join Date: May 2008 Location: Beverly Hills, CA Posts: 1,410 iTrader: (4)	Seeing what AMS has recently done with the W212 E63, the main competitor to the F10, I can't wait to see what they're going to do with the M5. For those who don't know, they made 787whp with just a tune and upgrades turbos.....stock dp's, stock inlets, and stock exhaust. Can't wait to see what kind of power is going to be squeezed out of both these platforms.....job well done AMS! __________________ E92 328i Jet Black / Gloss Black Grilles / 8000k D1S low beam / 6000k HID fogs / GP Thunder 8500k angels & cornering bulbs / black reflectors / gloss black vinyled window trim / tints / smoked rear turn signals / black roundels / AC Schnitzer roof spoiler / VRS style decklid spoiler / Matte black Stripes / Rear fogs / matte mirrors / 19" LM reps / APR lip

02-26-2013, 09:31 PM	#69
W/// Major Drives: E30 Vert & E92 M3 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: SC Posts: 1,299 iTrader: (2)	^ Wow that's really impressive with the Benz. Nate, can you comment on how hard it is to get to components for regular maintenance? I know these cars are obviously brand new, but I'd like to get an idea how they are to live with after their warranty run out. One of the main selling points for the E9x M3 for me is that they are quite DIY friendly. Would love to know about the F10 M5 as well. __________________ 2008 E92 M3: Sparkling Graphite \| Bamboo Beige \| 6MT \| CF Roof \| OEM ZCP Wheels \| Fully Catless Borla S-Type \| BPM Stage II Tune & Coding \| RS Technik Spacers (12F/12R)

03-01-2013, 09:20 AM	#71
Drm5 New Member Drives: E60 m5 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Puerto rico Posts: 10 iTrader: (0)	Predator I am here at Puerto Rico and I guess I will be scheduling my tune at predator were all the alpha kit are done for the gtr..... Can't wait for your R&D to get done...

03-21-2013, 12:06 AM	#73
bmwMcrzy Private First Class Drives: 2002 M5 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Chicago Posts: 111 iTrader: (0)	You're correct the hardware is "easy". A project of this scale may take up to a year. Hopefully the tuning isn't the holdup. Last edited by bmwMcrzy; 03-21-2013 at 12:57 PM.

03-21-2013, 12:57 PM	#74
TheStig Captain Drives: F10 M5 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Central NJ Posts: 718 iTrader: (4)	YES! This is gonna be intense! __________________ Gone But Not Forgotten:\|04 CLK55 Amg\|07 GT500\|08 335i FBO E92 6MT\|09 E92 M3 DCT\|

03-20-2013, 11:40 PM	#72
Jimefam Second Lieutenant Drives: 2011 550I Msport Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Cumming, Ga Posts: 218 iTrader: (0)	Been a month, bump for an update? I cant wait to see if ESS can come through on the tuning as it seems as if these bmw dme's are impossible to tune. Bunch of years since the N54 and S65 came out they still dont have full control. The hardware is the easy part imo.

03-26-2013, 05:04 PM	#75
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03-26-2013, 07:01 PM	#78
bm5bullit First Lieutenant Drives: 2013 BMW M5 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 300 iTrader: (0)	DP's I think we are finally starting to see some competition as well as some innovation for the twin-turbo V8. Top quality work Nate. __________________ 2012 Grand Cherokee SRT8 - her car 2013 M5, AW, black extended merino, BEL Sti-R, Laser Blinder, RKT lip, tint 2011 535i - SOLD 2008 E60 M5 - Gone

03-26-2013, 07:31 PM	#79
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03-29-2013, 10:39 AM	#82
GhanemMBN Private First Class Drives: MB SLS AMG & BMW X5M Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Abu Dhabi Posts: 140 iTrader: (0)	Will there be a 1/4 mile run after the tuning program is completed? It's interesting to see dragtimes, it really shows the power the car delivers

04-23-2013, 02:45 AM	#86
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05-10-2013, 06:10 PM	#88
Ilia@IND Lieutenant Colonel Drives: 08 Alpine M3 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,930 iTrader: (3)	Our turbos will be here in another 3-4 weeks, at which point the car will spend some time with ESS in Arizona. For now, here's a preview photo of our production version AMS downpipes: __________________

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