M5POST
BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Go Back   M5POST - BMW M5 Forum > F10 M5 Forum > BMW M5 (F10) General Forum

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      05-13-2012, 12:51 PM   #1
Jason
Administrator
Jason's Avatar
United_States
6695
Rep
16,676
Posts

 
Drives: E90 M3
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: USA

iTrader: (0)

Post F10 M5 won't get new 5 series multifunction instrument display in immediate future

BMW has announced a new optional programmable multifunction instrument display for the F10 5 series.

Some of you may be wondering if this will be available for the upcoming 2013 M5 which starts production in July. It is not.

It's no surprise that this new display won't be an option for the 2013 M5 as it did not appear in the 2013 Ordering Guide. BMW NA has confirmed this and says that it won't be available for the M5 in the immediate future.
__________________
Check on the Latest BMW News
Become a fan of Bimmerpost Facebook
Follow us on Bimmerpost Twitter
Subscribe to Bimmerpost Youtube Channel

Appreciate 0
      05-13-2012, 01:26 PM   #2
SleepTight
Second Lieutenant
SleepTight's Avatar
United_States
7
Rep
287
Posts

 
Drives: 2013 BMW M5
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Long Island, New York

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jason View Post
BMW has announced a new optional programmable multifunction instrument display for the F10 5 series.

Some of you may be wondering if this will be available for the upcoming 2013 M5 which starts production in July. It is not.

It's no surprise that this new display won't be an option for the 2013 M5 as it did not appear in the 2013 Ordering Guide. BMW NA has confirmed this and says that it won't be available for the M5 in the immediate future.
Booo! Not a single F10 M5 has been sold to a U.S. customer yet and BMW is already failing to incorporate the latest advances into the vehicle. 2013 M5s are 2012s with expensive (and IMHO essentially useless) optional B&O Audio and carbon ceramic brakes. We deserved something more after being forced to wait a year longer than the rest of the world for this car. This is how BMW treats its largest M market.

I'd wait for the M6 Grand Coupe, which will surely incorporate some of the newer bells and whistles, but by the time it actually gets delivered to a U.S. customer I'll probably be on social security!
Appreciate 0
      05-13-2012, 01:43 PM   #3
stealth.pilot
Knight Commander ///
stealth.pilot's Avatar
United Kingdom
73
Rep
4,865
Posts

 
Drives: 2014 M5 Individual
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Buckhead

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by SleepTight View Post
Booo! Not a single F10 M5 has been sold to a U.S. customer yet and BMW is already failing to incorporate the latest advances into the vehicle. 2013 M5s are 2012s with expensive (and IMHO essentially useless) optional B&O Audio and carbon ceramic brakes. We deserved something more after being forced to wait a year longer than the rest of the world for this car. This is how BMW treats its largest M market.

I'd wait for the M6 Grand Coupe, which will surely incorporate some of the newer bells and whistles, but by the time it actually gets delivered to a U.S. customer I'll probably be on social security!
Yeah I am more annoyed by lack of full individual leather and ceramic controls. From an interior perspective, this M5 will be a downgrade from my 12 550i.
__________________
2014 BMW ///M5 Individual Frozen Grey, Silverstone Full Merino, Piano Black, Exec Pkg, Drivers assistance plus, LED Pkg, Bang and Olufsen, 20" 343M Forged Alloy Wheels
Countermeasures: Bel StiR+, Laser Interceptor Quad HP, Zaon MRX
Upgrades: Eisenmann Sport with M Performance Carbon tips, Dinan anti-roll bars

2015 Jaguar F-Type R Coupe
Appreciate 0
      05-13-2012, 01:43 PM   #4
TheBingoBalls
Lieutenant Colonel
Canada
19
Rep
1,815
Posts

 
Drives: E90 325i, R56 MINI Cooper
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Toronto, Ontario

iTrader: (1)

How long would be considered as "immediate future"? I could understand not having in on the 2013 US-release of the M5 but could make it on the LCI?
Appreciate 0
      05-13-2012, 01:46 PM   #5
drewmisha
Enlisted Member
0
Rep
32
Posts

 
Drives: 2012 x5 4.8 & 2014 CP m5
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: south lake tahoe

iTrader: (0)

There was an earlier post a few pages back regarding 2013 m5 electronic changes for July. Does this have something to do with it? Seems to coincide with the 5 series changes...

Here's the post...

So does anyone know the details behind this?

Per the Canadian M5 product planning guide material.

"Please note that BMW USA announced availability of the M5 Sedan in the U.S. market as a MY2013 as of July 2012 production. BMW Canada’s M5 production will follow the same model year schedule. Also note that there is a material change expected to the M5’s vehicle electronics as of July 2012 production. The change will not impact the output or performance of the M5. Additional details of the change will be available in the later part of Q2 2012. With the model year and vehicle electronic changes expected as of July 2012 production, please ensure your customers consider this information before placing an order between 03/12-06/12 production."

Thanks.... What in the world is it!


Quote:
Originally Posted by Jason View Post
BMW has announced a new optional programmable multifunction instrument display for the F10 5 series.

Some of you may be wondering if this will be available for the upcoming 2013 M5 which starts production in July. It is not.

It's no surprise that this new display won't be an option for the 2013 M5 as it did not appear in the 2013 Ordering Guide. BMW NA has confirmed this and says that it won't be available for the M5 in the immediate future.
Appreciate 0
      05-13-2012, 01:55 PM   #6
///M1
Brigadier General
///M1's Avatar
United_States
56
Rep
3,090
Posts

 
Drives: Many
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: 212/305

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by stealth.pilot View Post
Yeah I am more annoyed by lack of full individual leather and ceramic controls. From an interior perspective, this M5 will be a downgrade from my 12 550i.
A fellow Canadian member stated he has been able to add a leather dash in addition to the full individual leather option upon placing his order. Let's hope that indeed is the case.

If LCI is indeed for MY 2014 (which logically seems to be the case based on prior model cycles), it may make sense to wait it out considering a lot of new features may become available (full LED headlights, square corona AE rings and revised headlights, touch-pad Nav, revised speedo, steering wheel, tail lights, etc.)
__________________
2011 BMW E82 1///M: AW, ZPP+ZCV, HK, Apps; Akra CF+Valve control, MadDad mids, K&N, Forge FMIC, P3gauge, EuroTails, Tint, CF Mirrors+Spoiler+Roof+RevoZ diffuser, 10mm H&R, IND grills+gills, xCDV, LUX AE
2008 Audi B7 RS 4: Sprint Blue, Audi Exclusive Euro Interior, Premium+Titanium Package, EPL Tune, Stasis Ohlins MS coilovers, Milltek valved exhaust+DownPipes, Alcon BBK, Tint, ADR V1, Lidatek, Lamin-X, Strasse Forged SM7 3-piece concave wheels, 275/30/19 PSSs, Euro flat-bottom steering wheel, JHM SSK
Appreciate 0
      05-13-2012, 02:15 PM   #7
hinckley
Lieutenant
hinckley's Avatar
United_States
5
Rep
427
Posts

 
Drives: MY13 M5 6MT
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Boston, MA USA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by ///M1 View Post
If LCI is indeed for MY 2014 (which logically seems to be the case based on prior model cycles), it may make sense to wait it out considering a lot of new features may become available (full LED headlights, square corona AE rings and revised headlights, touch-pad Nav, revised speedo, steering wheel, tail lights, etc.)
I think that LCIs usually are introduced in the fifth year of BMW's seven year model cycle. If I'm correct, that means that the LCI 5ers should be MY15 models, likely introduced in the spring or fall of 2014.
Appreciate 0
      05-13-2012, 03:11 PM   #8
Bluesummer
Lieutenant General
Bluesummer's Avatar
Taiwan
179
Rep
15,410
Posts

 
Drives: slower than Ayrton Senna
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Nürburgring, be there once, your heart, your soul will stay there.

iTrader: (13)

Garage List
2015 M4  [0.00]
2011 E82 135  [0.00]
2011 M3  [0.00]
2007 335  [0.00]
nice, some components on the car is already outdated before it even lands.
__________________

R.I.P. Steve Noh
Appreciate 0
      05-13-2012, 03:14 PM   #9
///M1
Brigadier General
///M1's Avatar
United_States
56
Rep
3,090
Posts

 
Drives: Many
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: 212/305

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by hinckley View Post
I think that LCIs usually are introduced in the fifth year of BMW's seven year model cycle. If I'm correct, that means that the LCI 5ers should be MY15 models, likely introduced in the spring or fall of 2014.
I guess you are right, my thinking was predicated on the 5-series GT which was a 2010 MY, though the F10 technically came in a few months later as a 2011 MY. I am hopeful that the GT and F10 LCI would come at the same time, which in the 5-series GT case would be a 2014 MY (yr 5 of 7).

One thing BMW is keeping an eye on is increasing market share of competitors, particularly Audi (in the US largely, though also globally). If the F10 starts getting long in the tooth and the relatively newer A6 is continuing to have strong sales, an accelerated 2014 MY LCI may be quite possible.
__________________
2011 BMW E82 1///M: AW, ZPP+ZCV, HK, Apps; Akra CF+Valve control, MadDad mids, K&N, Forge FMIC, P3gauge, EuroTails, Tint, CF Mirrors+Spoiler+Roof+RevoZ diffuser, 10mm H&R, IND grills+gills, xCDV, LUX AE
2008 Audi B7 RS 4: Sprint Blue, Audi Exclusive Euro Interior, Premium+Titanium Package, EPL Tune, Stasis Ohlins MS coilovers, Milltek valved exhaust+DownPipes, Alcon BBK, Tint, ADR V1, Lidatek, Lamin-X, Strasse Forged SM7 3-piece concave wheels, 275/30/19 PSSs, Euro flat-bottom steering wheel, JHM SSK
Appreciate 0
      05-13-2012, 03:50 PM   #10
aajami
Brigadier General
aajami's Avatar
United_States
65
Rep
4,083
Posts

 
Drives: Space Gray '09 E92 M3
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Manhattan Beach, CA

iTrader: (4)

There's no reason that BMW would tie the release of the updated dashboard in the F10M to the F10 LCI. I would bet that we'll see this new dash in the MY14 M5, whether or not the LCI happens then or not. Case in point, a new generation of iDrive was introduced to many cars, including the E92, in MY09 -- the E92 didn't get its LCI until MY11.
__________________
'09 E92 M3: Space Gray, Black, Carbon Leather | ZTP 2MK ZPP 2MT 6FL | link 1 / link 2
Mods: M Performance exhaust | ZCP retrofit | Euro airbox | GTS DCT flash | 240J ECU flash | LCI Euro taillights | CRT lip | OEM alarm retrofit | Space Gray bumper plugs | BMW Performance: Mk. II spoiler / Mk. II non-electronic steering wheel / mirror caps / front grilles / side gills / intake louvers / emblem
Appreciate 0
      05-13-2012, 09:13 PM   #11
uhn2000
Big K...
uhn2000's Avatar
Canada
23
Rep
1,632
Posts

 
Drives: FerrariFF
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Toronto, Ontario

iTrader: (0)

Reminds me of the e60 M5 release. The 06's were for a short time to NA (I think), the 07's were full on, then 08 refresh came out for May delivery. The 09's were a short build because the 2010s brought in the new CIC.

Its always really hard to perfectly "time" the M vehicles because BMW's rate of change and technology rollout is massive. If I could have just one M5 it would be a 2010 but mine was an '08. While I don't think the F10 will go through a refresh in 2014 I do feel it will get some of the newer tech features. I am pulling the trigger for 2013 - just order blindly and go!
__________________
Prancing horse..

Last edited by uhn2000; 05-13-2012 at 10:08 PM.
Appreciate 0
      05-14-2012, 12:55 AM   #12
jphughan
Brigadier General
jphughan's Avatar
United_States
39
Rep
3,467
Posts

 
Drives: 2011.75 M3 E92 6MT
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Austin, TX

iTrader: (0)

Well considering the M5 and M6 don't even have the existing "full black panel" cluster that comes on F10s with HUD, I'm not too surprised at this. Yet another reason to wait a few model years before buying, I guess.
__________________
11 M3 E92 Le Mans | Black Nov w/ Alum | 6MT | Premium 2 | Convenience | 19" | EDC | Prem Audio | Moonroof | BMW Apps | Yoko AD08 R | Vorshlag Adjustable Camber Plates | StopTech ST-60 380mm BBK | Castrol SRF Fluid | ModMyNav.com rear camera | OEM Euro Sunglasses Holder
Appreciate 0
      05-14-2012, 04:02 AM   #13
hakaida442
First Lieutenant
hakaida442's Avatar
3
Rep
371
Posts

 
Drives: 11 Porsche 911 Carrera GTS
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Las Vegas, NV

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by jphughan View Post
Well considering the M5 and M6 don't even have the existing "full black panel" cluster that comes on F10s with HUD, I'm not too surprised at this. Yet another reason to wait a few model years before buying, I guess.
That full black panel looks great and its a shame its not offered in the usa.
Appreciate 0
      05-14-2012, 07:16 AM   #14
kave
First Lieutenant
Sweden
7
Rep
327
Posts

 
Drives: BMW 520D Touring 2012
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Sweden

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Maybe the LCD display isnät fast enough
Ie the M5 revs and accelerates too fast for it
__________________
Appreciate 0
      05-14-2012, 08:06 AM   #15
PatrickC23
Lieutenant Colonel
PatrickC23's Avatar
United_States
25
Rep
1,755
Posts

 
Drives: '13 F10 AW/SO ///M5
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: NNJ

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2013 BMW ///M5  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by ///M1 View Post
A fellow Canadian member stated he has been able to add a leather dash in addition to the full individual leather option upon placing his order. Let's hope that indeed is the case.

If LCI is indeed for MY 2014 (which logically seems to be the case based on prior model cycles), it may make sense to wait it out considering a lot of new features may become available (full LED headlights, square corona AE rings and revised headlights, touch-pad Nav, revised speedo, steering wheel, tail lights, etc.)
What are square corona AE rings - how do they differ?

And are there also new tail lights announced for the regular F10?
__________________
Retired - 2009 C63 l 2007 Supercharged RRS l 2002 e46 SMG ///M3 l 2001 e46 330ci

2013 Alpine White/Sakhir Orange F10 M5 - 20" Modulare Matte Titanium Brushed B18s - Coded by the best, V12
2014 Jeep JKU Wrangler Willys Wheeler W Unlimited - Granite Crystal/Black
Appreciate 0
      05-14-2012, 09:44 AM   #16
mr_yogi
Lieutenant
United_States
9
Rep
487
Posts

 
Drives: Success
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Atlanta, GA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by kave View Post
Maybe the LCD display isnät fast enough
Ie the M5 revs and accelerates too fast for it
Not sure about that. In the case of the LF-A it was quite the opposite. They had to go digital because the analog dials couldn't keep up.
Appreciate 0
      05-14-2012, 09:07 PM   #17
AttyGunther
Private First Class
AttyGunther's Avatar
4
Rep
124
Posts

 
Drives: 14 M5~11 Z435is~14 K1600GTL-E
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Chicagoland, IL

iTrader: (0)

Now what about the updated navigation announced for the 5 series... Will that be on the 2013 M5? All of these changes will make me seriously consider if I want to wait!
Appreciate 0
      05-15-2012, 01:26 AM   #18
aajami
Brigadier General
aajami's Avatar
United_States
65
Rep
4,083
Posts

 
Drives: Space Gray '09 E92 M3
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Manhattan Beach, CA

iTrader: (4)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Patsc23 View Post
What are square corona AE rings - how do they differ?

And are there also new tail lights announced for the regular F10?
The squared off angel eyes can be seen on the LED option for the F12/13 6-series and F06 6-series GC, as well as all F30 3-series and the LCI E71 X6-series. The poster is guessing that the F10 LCI will include this change, though seeing as how the F01 LCI isn't going to have squared off angels, I doubt the F10 LCI will either.

As for the tail lights, nothing's been announced. But again, seeing as how the tail lights didn't change for the LCI E84 X1-series, it may not change for the F10 LCI, either.
__________________
'09 E92 M3: Space Gray, Black, Carbon Leather | ZTP 2MK ZPP 2MT 6FL | link 1 / link 2
Mods: M Performance exhaust | ZCP retrofit | Euro airbox | GTS DCT flash | 240J ECU flash | LCI Euro taillights | CRT lip | OEM alarm retrofit | Space Gray bumper plugs | BMW Performance: Mk. II spoiler / Mk. II non-electronic steering wheel / mirror caps / front grilles / side gills / intake louvers / emblem
Appreciate 0
      05-15-2012, 05:53 PM   #19
AlpWhite11
Captain
United_States
35
Rep
695
Posts

 
Drives: 335i
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Irvine

iTrader: (0)

Send a message via Yahoo to AlpWhite11
Quote:
Originally Posted by aajami
There's no reason that BMW would tie the release of the updated dashboard in the F10M to the F10 LCI. I would bet that we'll see this new dash in the MY14 M5, whether or not the LCI happens then or not. Case in point, a new generation of iDrive was introduced to many cars, including the E92, in MY09 -- the E92 didn't get its LCI until MY11.
This makes sense.
Appreciate 0
      05-15-2012, 11:24 PM   #20
Subway35
Enlisted Member
Subway35's Avatar
Canada
0
Rep
35
Posts

 
Drives: 2011 BMW X6M
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Vancouver

iTrader: (0)

HUD is all I need
__________________
A Wolf in Sheep's Clothing
Appreciate 0
      05-15-2012, 11:37 PM   #21
stealth.pilot
Knight Commander ///
stealth.pilot's Avatar
United Kingdom
73
Rep
4,865
Posts

 
Drives: 2014 M5 Individual
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Buckhead

iTrader: (0)

I am not convinced we will ever see the new display in an M5. I am not sure it makes sense in a sports car.
__________________
2014 BMW ///M5 Individual Frozen Grey, Silverstone Full Merino, Piano Black, Exec Pkg, Drivers assistance plus, LED Pkg, Bang and Olufsen, 20" 343M Forged Alloy Wheels
Countermeasures: Bel StiR+, Laser Interceptor Quad HP, Zaon MRX
Upgrades: Eisenmann Sport with M Performance Carbon tips, Dinan anti-roll bars

2015 Jaguar F-Type R Coupe
Appreciate 0
      08-13-2013, 02:57 PM   #22
Neil McRae
BMW Motorsport
Neil McRae's Avatar
United Kingdom
40
Rep
2,058
Posts

 
Drives: BMW ///M3 E92 / BMW ///M5 F10
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: London

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
2012 BMW M5  [5.00]
2010 BMW M3 Coupe  [5.00]
Send a message via MSN to Neil McRae
so - is the new dash in the LCI?
__________________
--
Neil J. //McRae -- Alive and Kicking -- neil at DOMINO.ORG --///M ARMY
M5 DCT CP Alpine White -- M135i Alpine White -- M4 DCT Alpine White
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:18 AM.




m5post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST