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      01-08-2017, 05:52 PM   #1
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why are F10 jahre prices falling so fast?

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Last year jahre prices were advertised above 300k. I have been. Watching one in NC go from 200 to 180 to 159 and now it's at 129 and still not sold. Will they ever drop below 100k?
I'd sell my cp car and grab one for sure then. I would assume given the trend they will fall below 100k by 2018.

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      01-08-2017, 06:21 PM   #2
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From what I've been seeing the current 2016 Pure Metal Limited Special Editions are being sold less than the usual MSRP around 133k. Many still appear to be available.

Hazard a guess and maybe something to do with this next issue having some significant feature changes like some version of xDrive, standard bhp =>600, and/or possibly the new iDrive system? Just guesses.
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M5 30 Jahre was overpriced from the day first, but people wanted to be exclusive so went for it... the same thing with M6 competition edition priced at 167K MSRP. There are bunch of them sitting in dealerships for almost a year and no one want them...

http://www.irvinebmw.com/vehicle/spe...934629?remls=1

http://www.irvinebmw.com/vehicle/spe...934649?remls=1

http://www.sterlingbmw.com/new-inven...6J9C51GD934585
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      01-08-2017, 06:41 PM   #4
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Are they really any faster than a stock cp car? I do want one.
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      01-08-2017, 06:47 PM   #5
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Are they really any faster than a stock cp car? I do want one.
Not that much but they are fully loaded. You can build almost the same car with 10+k cheaper and pay 2-3 k to add more HP to your car and overall save some monies...
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M5 30 Jahre was overpriced from the day first, but people wanted to be exclusive so went for it... the same thing with M6 competition edition priced at 167K MSRP. There are bunch of them sitting in dealerships for almost a year and no one want them...

http://www.irvinebmw.com/vehicle/spe...934629?remls=1

http://www.irvinebmw.com/vehicle/spe...934649?remls=1

http://www.sterlingbmw.com/new-inven...6J9C51GD934585
Here is one $20k off MSRP for $147k

http://www.bmwofdallas.com/new/BMW/2...9f1943d006.htm
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Not worth the money with F90 coming out
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F90 is going to cost a fortune
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      01-08-2017, 07:02 PM   #9
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Here is one $20k off MSRP for $147k

http://www.bmwofdallas.com/new/BMW/2...9f1943d006.htm
I know and I don't think they can sell them yet...

Here are two more sitting on McKenna BMW
http://www.mckennabmw.com/new-invent...nchor-model-28

Or this one with 30k off MSRP - SteveThomas BMW
http://www.stevethomasbmw.com/new-in...nchor-model-24
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Hard to get a preimium on a car when the shell has been out since 2012, and the new model is ready to launch. Why pay a premium for yesterday's model? These are parts bin cars just to keep the production line going until the new model. These cars are all big margin because all production cost have been met so it's all good dollars. Call it special edition, and it's just left over parts.
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It's only a special edition when purchasing. Try and trade it in and a dealer will low ball
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Hard to get a preimium on a car when the shell has been out since 2012, and the new model is ready to launch. Why pay a premium for yesterday's model? These are parts bin cars just to keep the production line going until the new model. These cars are all big margin because all production cost have been met so it's all good dollars. Call it special edition, and it's just left over parts.
Well with M6 Competition Edition BMW marketing team had plan to come out with the an special fully loaded edition. Believe me or no if you want to build this car and check all boxes and add the extra CF pieces and MPE you will end up to north 165k which is the price of car but no matter how much I love BMW, if I want to pay 165k I will go with something else since that's the terittory of entry level exotic cars such as GT3, R8 , AMG GTS or even 570s
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That M6 is just stupid. What adult would drive around in that livery? It ain't a race car...
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      01-08-2017, 09:49 PM   #14
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I know and I don't think they can sell them yet...

Here are two more sitting on McKenna BMW
http://www.mckennabmw.com/new-invent...nchor-model-28

Or this one with 30k off MSRP - SteveThomas BMW
http://www.stevethomasbmw.com/new-in...nchor-model-24
for a limited edition car
they're fully loaded
but colors on the ugly side for me
the stripes on the white car look cheap

there are a bunch of them at los angeles dealers
they will be a steal soon
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people fail to understand, these "special edition" cars mean nothing. Only a select few people want them, (when in reality there is nothing truly special that separates them from their counterparts)


Some of the folks who buy them probably don't care if they lose money, or are just plain ignorant to the fact that they will in fact lose a shit load. AND some may truly believe they will be worth something down the road. That's just foolish.


I think its cute that people clamor over the jahre, and the "pure metal" give me a break and open your eyes.

there is literally nothing special about the pure metal car, it's literally SILVER. It looks the exact same as my iridium c63. I always get a crack out of people saying "it looks so much better in person" yea, doesn't every car?
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The Pure Metal Silver is leaps better then a regular silver M car.
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people fail to understand, these "special edition" cars mean nothing. Only a select few people want them, (when in reality there is nothing truly special that separates them from their counterparts)


Some of the folks who buy them probably don't care if they lose money, or are just plain ignorant to the fact that they will in fact lose a shit load. AND some may truly believe they will be worth something down the road. That's just foolish.


I think its cute that people clamor over the jahre, and the "pure metal" give me a break and open your eyes.
Well let me rephrase it for you... People fail to understand to understand that there is something different on these "special edition" FROM FACTORY

This is the Vin number decoded information for M6 Competition Edition:
Vehicle information
VIN WBS6J9C51GD934649
Type code 6J93
Type M6 (USA)
E series F13 (M6)
Series 6
Type COUPE
Steering LL
Doors 2
Engine S63T
Displacement 4.40
Power 412
Drive HECK
Transmission MECH
Colour ALPINWEISS 3 (300)
Upholstery SONDERPOLSTERUNG (Z1XX)
Prod.date 2015-11-25
Vehicle upgrades
Smartphone mirroring
Additional iDrive features
Vehicle options
S1CA Selection of COP relevant vehicles
S248 Steering wheel heater
S2NK M Carbon ceramic brake
S2TY BMW LA wheel, M Double Spoke 343
S2VB Tire pressure display
S319 Integrated universal remote control
S322 Comfort access
S323 Soft-Close-Automatic doors
S3AG Reversing camera
S415 Sun-blind, rear
S423 Floor mats, velours
S441 Smoker package
S453 Climate-controlled seats, front
S455 Active seat for driver and passenger
S464 Ski bag
S4MA M multifunction seat
S5AC High-beam assistant
S5AG Lane-change warning
S5AP Decode, anti-glare FLA high-beam assist
S5AS Driving Assistant
S5DL Surround View
S609 Navigation system Professional
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S655 Satellite tuner
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S223 Dynamic Damping Control
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S302 Alarm system
S430 Interior/outside mirror with auto dip
S488 Lumbar support, driver and passenger
S494 Seat heating driver/passenger
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S4UR Ambient interior lighting
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S552 Adaptive LED headlight
S5DS Emergency release, luggage compartment
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S8SM Car ident. number visible from outside

This means the fully loaded car plus some extra M performance parts such as Alcantara steering wheels, CF mirror caps, M performance CF rear diffuser, M performance CF trunk spoiler, M performance mats, M performance CF knob cover, M performance exhaust with CF tips installed by factory beside those funny M strips... You don't see any of them on stock cars right? So it's special... worth it? of course not but there is a difference out there
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The Pure Metal Silver is leaps better then a regular silver M car.


whatever helps you better sleep at night.


m6, don't think i know that? My buddy has a 1 or 1 m6 coupe. sticker at 165+


are the mirror caps, steering wheel, exhaust, carbon fiber, "1 of 1" imprinted inside the car worth the 40k premium? will it hold its value? will it be worth gt3 money down the road?

Didn't think so. but thank you for laying out these special options.
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whatever helps you better sleep at night.


m6, don't think i know that? My buddy has a 1 or 1 m6 coupe. sticker at 165+


are the mirror caps, steering wheel, exhaust, carbon fiber, "1 of 1" imprinted inside the car worth the 40k premium? will it hold its value? will it be worth gt3 money down the road?

Didn't think so. but thank you for laying out these special options.
If you take your time and go to BMW NA car builder and build the car with the options I posted and at the end add 20K for MPE, CF rear diffuser, CF knob cover and steering wheel, then you will end up to 165+... where did you find 40k? You know what? instead of talking just do some research and then we can discuss ....
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The only thing that is happening, the prices are coming out of la-la land and back to reality. Seriously, +200K for a 'special edition' M5 is certifiably bonkers.
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The only thing that is happening, the prices are coming out of la-la land and back to reality. Seriously, +200K for a 'special edition' M5 is certifiably bonkers.
Prices have been out of control. I mean an M5 that's costs as much as a new Turbo S . I'll wait until they dip below 100k and find one. For whatever reason, they are showing up for sale more so than I would of thought.
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A brand new M5 is worth about 115k tops. No more than than that, no matter what special edition badge you stick on it or whatever shade of silver you paint it.

Add 5k for an M6

Add 5k on top of that for an M6 GC


The asking prices being floated for some of these cars are nuts. For cash like that buy a GT3 where at least you can kinda sell it for what you paid for it if you want out.
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