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      11-13-2023, 10:01 AM   #283
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From July 2022(before the season):

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Well, he didn’t beat Cam out in camp. This is said by Cam AND Julian Edelman, and even McDaniels didn’t claim as such. In fact, they stated they believed that he could rise to the occasion - but he never did based on the sats and eye test.

Mac played with the second team O and defense during camp and could barely move the ball down the field. Mac was the same guy during the season that he was in preseason and camp: low risk, short throws because he didn’t trust his arm to make the tight windows and deep throws.

Despite being gifted a team and offense he didn’t earn, his production was terrible. 22TDs to 13ints. Keep in mind Cam had LESS to work with last season - his top receiver was Jackobi Meyers, and NKeal was literally #2, and his top TE are now currently benchwarming as 4th strings. And had about the same stat line. Literally, no one could have done better in that situation.

Mac managed to get 3 more wins with 250 MILLION in new personnel, and an easier schedule. And he STILL lost 4 of the last 5 games when actually asked to do his job and pass the ball. I believe the Colts watched the Tape and decided to shut down the run game and force Mac to pass, and he blew it. It would have been 5/5 but the Windstorm in the Buff game saved him.

I get it, Mac is a rookie, he has room to grow. But honestly, Mac sat Behind Tua in college, and had one good year with basically an NFL roaster and was thrown right into the pros so he could stoke Bills ego - Bill is still salty that Brady won a SB without him showing that Bill didn’t help him - he was helping Bill. Mac has never shown any ‘flashes’ to say he’s on the same level as Herbert, Burrow, Allen or the like. He’s a game manager, who if he’s luck, may get to Alex Smith levels of stats and wins - basically your need a loaded team just to get to the playoffs.

Mahomes is a good counter point to Smith, as he was able to elevate the players around him. Mac hasn’t and doesn’t do that. In less games - Cam gave Julian Edelman a Career game (despite playing with Brady) He elevated Nkeal to his best season (very hard to do) had no James White security blanket and still scored 66% of the teams TDs.

Bil'ls arrogance is going to tank that team and I hope he takes Mac with him.
I was so right - except I don't blame Bill - I blame Josh McDaniels and Robert Kraft. I know Bill wanted Cam - Josh thinking he was hot stuff in his "system" wanted a slow, weak armed pocket passer and selected Jones. Robert Kraft wanted a white pocket passer as the face of the franchise:

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Cam had no TEs, Meyers and Harry were his too WR, and no James White, a hard schedule to boot.


Watching Mac float the ball, and lose the last 4-5 games because his noodle arm couldn’t throw more than 10 yards despite having 2 star TEs, a reliable deep threat he can’t use, and 2 WR2s.



Brady is just transcendent - he’s the exception to the rule, and per him, it’s because his wife is a witch and uses black magic. Hard to argue it isn’t true when he’s head and shoulders above everyone else and carried Bills sorry rosters for 20 years. Used to be a Big Brady, fan, and I love the dominance, but he’s made it so that no one looks exceptional unless they can mimic him in some way, and that’s kinda boring.

That being said, he retires on this SB win and takes a shot at Bill on his way out - the Patriots finish 9-8, and Mac gets exposed as a game manager backup QB that he is.
I was a game off the Patriots finish last year - they finished 8-9 and Mac was exposed as the garbage back up game manager that he's always been. Mac was never THE guy, he's always been A guy - a terrible one at that.
Waiting for the Cam redemption arc and where Mac and Josh McDaniels are at home watching it.
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