Mercedes debuts the brand new 2018 E63 AMG!

[RPiM5]

Wow! First impressions are that the interior looks fantastic, no information yet about the curb weight, and it's going to come with a system that allows the driver to deactivate the AWD system to turn the car into a RWD car, something that I predict the next M5 may have if it goes AWD. I do think it looks far too similar in exterior design to the C63 AMG though.

Kind of surprised about the S horsepower rating, but it seems that even the non-S variant is still faster than the CTS-V. Probably because the CTS-V is RWD only though.

I also predict that with the E63S only being 603hp that the next M5 will probably have similar horsepower, being that both the Mercedes and the next M5 will have AWD and won't need more than the CTS-V's 640hp.


With all that said, this is the first Mercedes E63 AMG I would actually consider buying.


What do you guys think?

http://www.autoblog.com/2016/10/25/2...#slide-4246191

https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/auto/2...g-e63/preview/

http://www.leftlanenews.com/la-previ...-s--93157.html

http://www.caranddriver.com/news/201...-and-info-news

[GB///M]

I think it's very badass and I would actually consider this too. And that trick is pretty neat about how to activate rear wheel drive only. Can't wait to see reviews and comparisons with this against the new M5.

[Blackraven]

Hot damn.

And I can't wait to see the station wagon version as well..........and I think MB said that they will continue to sell an AMG E63 wagon Stateside and Canada

[patb23]

I really like it. I was looking at the cts-v but I will have to take a look at this when the time comes to replace the M5.

[swanson]

[DieGrüneHölle]

0-60 in 3.3 sec...just crazy.

http://www.motor1.com/news/126854/20...ficial-photos/

[Grayblack]

The exterior and interior styling are on point. Would definitely consider this as an option.

[Phatcat]

Looks great, as I have said before, I like the interior this time around and would definitely consider it if I was in the market.

[E92TTKING]

looks very nice inside and out
the rear lights look like from a c class though

[lemetier]

Originally Posted by RPiM5

Wow! First impressions are that the interior looks fantastic, no information yet about the curb weight, and it's going to come with a system that allows the driver to deactivate the AWD system to turn the car into a RWD car, something that I predict the next M5 may have if it goes AWD. I do think it looks far too similar in exterior design to the C63 AMG though.

Kind of surprised about the S horsepower rating, but it seems that even the non-S variant is still faster than the CTS-V. Probably because the CTS-V is RWD only though.

I also predict that with the E63S only being 603hp that the next M5 will probably have similar horsepower, being that both the Mercedes and the next M5 will have AWD and won't need more than the CTS-V's 640hp.


With all that said, this is the first Mercedes E63 AMG I would actually consider buying.


What do you guys think?

http://www.autoblog.com/2016/10/25/2...#slide-4246191

https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/auto/2...g-e63/preview/

http://www.leftlanenews.com/la-previ...-s--93157.html

http://www.caranddriver.com/news/201...-and-info-news

Eerily similar to some *cough* hints not to worry over AWD in the F90.

It's fun to play with systems test beds even at an early stage

[swanson]

[Phatcat]

Some pix

[Vic55]

Outside of the advanced interior, I'm not jumping up and down just yet. The current AWD S iteration can perform close to these numbers and exceeds them with a tune and simple Benz mods.

I have had benzes with more hp and tq (tuned) and clearly I had issues with the MCT tranny which this car gets as well in a 9 speed variant. The delays in driver input and shift speeds are noticeable and many owners have voiced their thoughts on the Benz Boards. Of course I am spoiled having so many dual clutch cars and even my GTS which is a Benz is so much of a better car from a transmission standpoint.

My hope (and a prayer) is that Benz will tune the TCU to properly transmit driver input to the transmission. Because after owning 4 MCT's; I don't know if I could deal with that transmission vs even the likes of the ZF8 I have in my Bentley (had in RS7 and F Type R) let alone against how brilliant the DCT is in my Pcars, Lambo, GTS, Ferraris, Bimmers etc.

[apexlocator]

Beautiful interior. The hood looks very F10 M5ish

[Vossen wheels]

Incredible. Really love it so far

[RPiM5]

Originally Posted by Vic55

Outside of the advanced interior, I'm not jumping up and down just yet. The current AWD S iteration can perform close to these numbers and exceeds them with a tune and simple Benz mods.

I have had benzes with more hp and tq (tuned) and clearly I had issues with the MCT tranny which this car gets as well in a 9 speed variant. The delays in driver input and shift speeds are noticeable and many owners have voiced their thoughts on the Benz Boards. Of course I am spoiled having so many dual clutch cars and even my GTS which is a Benz is so much of a better car from a transmission standpoint.

My hope (and a prayer) is that Benz will tune the TCU to properly transmit driver input to the transmission. Because after owning 4 MCT's; I don't know if I could deal with that transmission vs even the likes of the ZF8 I have in my Bentley (had in RS7 and F Type R) let alone against how brilliant the DCT is in my Pcars, Lambo, GTS, Ferraris, Bimmers etc.

Good point on the transmission Vic, I guess it really takes someone with experience with the MCT's to understand them. I hope the MCT's are better than before.

[Phatcat]

Originally Posted by Vic55

Outside of the advanced interior, I'm not jumping up and down just yet. The current AWD S iteration can perform close to these numbers and exceeds them with a tune and simple Benz mods.

I have had benzes with more hp and tq (tuned) and clearly I had issues with the MCT tranny which this car gets as well in a 9 speed variant. The delays in driver input and shift speeds are noticeable and many owners have voiced their thoughts on the Benz Boards. Of course I am spoiled having so many dual clutch cars and even my GTS which is a Benz is so much of a better car from a transmission standpoint.

My hope (and a prayer) is that Benz will tune the TCU to properly transmit driver input to the transmission. Because after owning 4 MCT's; I don't know if I could deal with that transmission vs even the likes of the ZF8 I have in my Bentley (had in RS7 and F Type R) let alone against how brilliant the DCT is in my Pcars, Lambo, GTS, Ferraris, Bimmers etc.

We will see how the tranny performs, this new version supposedly swapped out the torque converter with wet clutch.

[Vic55]

Originally Posted by Phatcat

We will see how the tranny performs, this new version supposedly swapped out the torque converter with wet clutch.

Ummmm that's what the MCT is... a wet clutch planetary automatic that's been out for 6 plus years.

[Vic55]

Originally Posted by RPiM5

Good point on the transmission Vic, I guess it really takes someone with experience with the MCT's to understand them. I hope the MCT's are better than before.

Indeed Dave, the MCT is a wet clutch tranny with 7 speeds and knowing Benz like I have in the past it appears they just added 2 more speeds. Yes the MCT can handle boat loads of tq but its not fluid by any means, lacks efficiency (power to the ground rating) and clearly needs tuning. I speak from ownership of a 2010 e63, 2012 E63 Wagon, 2012 CLS63, 2013 SL63, and still owned 2012 C63BS.

[fkim119]

Looks great but just like all the AMG's I've had, something is always missing from the driving experience that leads me back to Porsches and BMW's.

[Phatcat]

Originally Posted by Vic55

Ummmm that's what the MCT is... a wet clutch planetary automatic that's been out for 6 plus years.

Understood

[Grayblack]

It looks like they're running center locks on the wheels as well.