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Also you know Audi never gives discounts. Since They always don't have enough inventory. On top of that, did you see the newly released option list for the M5? Almost everything is standard in that car. You can get a decently equipped M5 for BASE price. O_O
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I havent raced anyone 0-60mph since high school.
Show me a car that can pull away from me FROM 60mph to 160mph and thats a car I want to buy.
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1. on hard acceleration from a standstill 2. on hard acceleration in 2nd gear 3. on hard acceleration in 3rd gear 4. moderate acceleration in 1st, 2nd and 3rd on a 90 degree corner 5. moderate acceleration in 2nd and 3rd on a less sharp curve There are probably other situations which I have forgetten about. The light on the dash really does flash a fair bit to be honest. |
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I ended up with an A7 myself instead of a 535i Xdrive or any of the Mercedes offerings last July. BMW 550i was available but at the price point went with the Audi instead as the M5 was not available yet. I had come from my second M3 an e92 coupe and have done two M schools and a performance delivery so am very familar with the M and BMW brand). Can't knock the Audi; its very quick and interior and styling are top notch..other than exhaust vocals and yes I do agree it is NOT an M which you do miss at times! LOL Quote:
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C/D 'corrects' their numbers based on atmospheric conditions, and this causes some of their results to be way too quick. I'll bet you that we don't see any timeslips of a stock Audi S6 or a non-PP E63 running those kind of numbers. |
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05-28-2012, 12:52 PM | #31 |
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This video makes my point pretty well. While it shows a non PP Merc getting close to the E.T., the trap speed is what you would expect of a 500 HP car. The E.T. is largely determined by the launch, and the torque the car puts to the ground in the first few hundred feet. This dragstrip obviously has really good traction, probably better than what they had for the Car and Driver test.
The video shows 12.08 @ 116 and change for a non-PP Merc. 12.0 sec at 124 mph, shown in the Car and Driver test, is in a different league as far as engine horsepower. Trap speed is the best indication of horsepower, not E.T. An 8 mph difference in trap speed in basically the same car indicates a 50-100 hp advantage. The 124 mph shown in Car and Driver is BETTER than any trap speed I've ever seen on a PP Benz, so I think we just have to chalk that up to an overly optimistic 'correction factor'. |
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05-28-2012, 09:26 PM | #32 |
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You've got a good point - even with the time adjustments, evidently the Audi ran even with the M5 up to 60, then lost ground quickly, and the Merc ran even the whole way. I can believe the Audi result as a comparison, but the non-PP Merc being even with the M5 doesn't make sense. The M5 should easily outrun a non-PP E63, and should be dead even with the PP version.
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