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      11-28-2023, 06:41 AM   #67
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I sure hope they have a hybrid option, I'm not ready yet to go full EV
The world isn’t even ready for full EV yet there’s still soo much work to be done.
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BMWs model designation with an i suffix indicates it's a gas powered fuel injected car. A prefix of i indicates it's an electric model. BTW, the prefix i stands for innovation.
Apple innovated the use of “i” in the names of things and I this instance BMW uses the “i” more accurately for IMITATION.
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      11-28-2023, 09:04 AM   #70
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      11-28-2023, 10:31 AM   #72
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      11-28-2023, 10:47 AM   #73
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      11-28-2023, 10:48 AM   #74
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Well, for the record, while I did make a jab at an EV M3 not being an M3 (because the name does lends itself to that), I am curious and excited about how they create an ///M experience in an EV.
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      11-28-2023, 10:57 AM   #75
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Well I thought the G80 was supposed to be the final ICE M3. I think the "i" is a replacement...
I thought the head of BMW M said there will be parallel options of an ice or hybrid M and an iM.
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      11-28-2023, 11:13 AM   #76
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We don’t need a unbalanced car like a plaid, which doesn’t have the chassis to make use of that 1020 hp (unless we’re talking about drag racing). It’s kind of pathetic that a track pack s plaid is only 2-3 seconds faster than an AMG GT 63S and G80 M3 CS despite having 400+ horsepower and R spec track tires (vs standard cup tires) on a track (Nurburgring). Let’s face it 700-800 hp with a well balanced fairly light chassis is enough to satisfy the non drag racing crowd.
Totally agree with you on this. Great take.
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People are only in favor of an iM3 if BMW “keeps the weight down”, insinuating EV’s are dramatically heavier than their ICE counterparts. Weights between ICE & EV models are a lot closer than people think
They're not. +17% may not sound like a lot but in terms of energy/brakes/tires and driving dynamics it's like driving around a track with 4 big dudes in the back of your M4. With that said, the industry is doing a decent job increasing power and braking (eg regen) to achieve respectable performance and somewhat offset the massive weight increase.
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      11-28-2023, 07:24 PM   #78
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Why do everyone want this to be comparable and quicker than the Tesla Model 3 Performance?
The i4 M60 is already quicker than the Model 3 Performance!
The iM3 should be way quicker than this.

Moreover, BMW used the i letter naming way before Apple. This first iDrive was in 2001.
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I simply hope this machine looks as good as it performs. We all see what they did to the front end of the G80 M3. I really don't want to see a quad motor beast that can beat up many cars on the street with a front end we have to say to everyone who walks buy "You eventually get use to it & it grows on you... " That's passive BS & denying the fact that the new exterior language wasn't anything even remotely evolutionary.

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      11-28-2023, 11:15 PM   #80
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Moreover, BMW used the i letter naming way before Apple. This first iDrive was in 2001.
iTunes and iPod were both launched in 2001.
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      11-29-2023, 05:21 AM   #81
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Why wouldn’t there be? They have two different 5 series platforms simultaneously going on sale right now. And they also have it right now for the 7 series.
Actually they don’t have 2 different platforms on the current 5 series or 7 series. The electric, hybrid, gas and diesel version are all on the G60 platform or G70 plattform for the 7 series. Because of that the i5 and i7 is a compromise with a driveshaft tunnel and no frunk. The future 2 different platforms will improve the way they design an EV. The only current fully electric platform bmw has is the ix.
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This is true. I still wonder if we had put all our resources towards an alternative fuel ICE if we would have had a better result. EV’s are a net environmental positive (I think?) but there is still a lot of bad there, some of it new compared to ICE cars. I wonder what the end result will actually be. We might know in 50 years.
I’ve owned a Model 3 & a Taycan. I do love EVs, however they are not that environmentally sound and I didn’t buy it for that purpose either.

I believe we should really focus on e-fuels. They produce zero net carbon or very little emissions while allowing to utilize existing fueling stations and any cars with a gas engine can use it. It’s a no brainer really. F1 will be using them following new engine regulations in 2026.

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Why do everyone want this to be comparable and quicker than the Tesla Model 3 Performance?
The i4 M60 is already quicker than the Model 3 Performance!
The iM3 should be way quicker than this.
Well, quicker in a straight line or around a track? Goal here is to cut weight. The i4M50 is 5000 lbs. v model 3 perf at 4000 lbs.
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I’m not worry about its performance or even handling. I’m more worry about the design.
If they don’t mess it up I will be in front of the line!
Well said. Quad motor chassis offers incredible potential to manage torque vectoring without engaging brakes or using differentials.

The design? To be seen ...
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      11-29-2023, 11:46 AM   #85
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I thought the head of BMW M said there will be parallel options of an ice or hybrid M and an iM.
I think one article said that and then in that topic that was here a while back, the head of BMW M said there will be only an electric M and no other propulsion offered.
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They're not. +17% may not sound like a lot but in terms of energy/brakes/tires and driving dynamics it's like driving around a track with 4 big dudes in the back of your M4. With that said, the industry is doing a decent job increasing power and braking (eg regen) to achieve respectable performance and somewhat offset the massive weight increase.
You should look up what a Tesla weighs compared to an AMG-E63 or even worse, an RS6 Avant.

BMW not being able to make lighter cars anymore is just BMW being BMW. That ship sailed a long time ago, just look at the M2.
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What happened to the i3 and i8 carbon chassis development?

I’d say a first of its kind 1000hp quad motor electric m3 would deserve such a treatment to keep the weight in check.
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