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I like Matt LeBlanc's answer when being interviewed on Top Gear (UK) about why he modded his 911 Turbo.. (to paraphrase) 'if someone who doesn't know anything about cars can go down to a dealership and get the same car...that is not right...I love cars.... so mine should go a little faster' |
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On the other hand (and a big part of the reason I personally dont see a need for one), are your own posts that impressed me -- as you stated "my F10 M5 is the fastest non-tuned car I have ever owned," and your 1/4 times with a bone stock M5 are amazing! If I ever considered a tune, I would really want a lot more certainty that it wouldnt create a warranty issue... If I didn't have that worry, I would go with the swtizer piggyback tune... why? Because he and Dave posted up real videos that show real performance increase on the road, not just a Dyno change. http://f10.m5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=854869, but as Niko stated -- its not for the faint of heart. Now if you drop a tune in on yours and break into the 10's on the strip that would be interesting too.
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10-10-2013, 11:37 AM | #28 | |
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I thought about tuning mine but there really isn't a tune out there right now that I trust...and I don't want to be some tuner's guinea pig. But if a reputable tuner puts something out there that is reliable and can quantify the gains...and will provide some sort of warranty...then I would probably pull the trigger. Until then, I will try to see what it can do without a tune at the track. |
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10-10-2013, 11:53 AM | #30 | |
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I don't see anything wrong with people who are passionate about their cars getting a tune or fixing them up. Even though you can't run for miles wide open or get full potential off-track, it is sure fun to pull up next to a fast car that would typically beat your stock car and leave it behind.
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We just need a guinea pig to go in, ask for the service mgr and tell him/her you need your DME inspected for history of the boost map. If it does, you will loose your warranty. Anyone up for it?
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Nothing wrong with either, but some people like more power and others like more suspension and brakes.
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10-10-2013, 12:51 PM | #34 | |
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This should not surprise anyone. The post I put above about a car throwing that error while at the tuner shop was enough for the tuner to say "forget the F10". If you can't afford to fix it without warranty then you should stay away from tunes. These cars are very fast as is.
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+100000 primary reason I sold mine. Funny thing is, my F12 cab grips a LOT better than the M5 did. The M5 had a tune and DPs and was faster so I thought that was it. (most power diff came from the DP). However, I swapped the DP to the M6 and it still grips better. hhhmmm.....
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+1....I own my car outright and I am willing to take the risk.
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http://www.ac-schnitzer.de/en/bmw-ca...2/engineering/ Last edited by Boss330; 10-11-2013 at 09:45 AM.. |
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I think DINAN will be coming out with exhaust and suspension soon. They have been doing R&D, and have also been crawling in terms of progress. Why, I don't know. Nobody really knows.
All I can say is when they finally do release parts for the F10 M5, it better be an entire "S Package".
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Not all information is stored on the key fob. Only service relevant data
However the car will log plenty of data BMW HQ can retrieve if need arises. The dealer does NOT have access to this data and can't intercept or read it BMW HQ for example has used the data to verify abuse after bend valves, burned clutches etc... So bottom line is anyone who puts any kind of tune on their cars (sw, piggy back, paper clip , whatever) has to understand they MAY have to cover costs for repairs and loose their warranties (if it's a lease car BMW can even possibly have you buy out the car as you breached the lease agreement)
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more brakes! yes.. R888 and some carbon brakes will do the trick. If I hadn't bought the tire protection plan I would have R888 on my car right now
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If the tech looks at air flow it would show the extra boost in extra air flow. Once I get round to fitting my burger tuning module I will log boost before and after and post results. But guaranteed to be standard both times where as the air flow will jump considerably.
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Boost and airflow don't match Fuel pressure and fuel flow/output signal to fuel pump don't match Etc, etc... Pretty sure BMW HQ knows how to detect that a piggyback has been on the car, if they want to find out... (like in a warranty claim case) |
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