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That was my only point. Of course your going to be "fast" I've ran BMS and played with the boost settings. Pretty much have had no issues destroying any cars I came across on the streets. Ferrari 458's, Benz's, BMW's, Porsches,.. but my point is efficient operation. Not how fast you are. |
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Sooooo should i do BMS and catlless AMS this weekend? Lol |
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08-08-2014, 05:18 PM | #226 | |
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I would like to see more then just a couple of monitored valves during a dyno run at a local dyno shop. The software tuners obviously have more operating data that is displayed otherwise they wouldn't release their version of software regardless which company it is. They need to see what's going on as well. These cars do not run wonderful with catless and a tune. Why then do tuning companies regardless of what make or vehicle create tuning files for catless down pipe options ? Fuel mixture needs to be adjusted. These ECU's are backing off and adjusting so that no damage occurs. Unfortunately majority of people just want high HP numbers regardless of how their car operates. Just seems to be the common denominator here. Again, I'm talking about efficiently operation, not which tuners puts down best numbers. |
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08-08-2014, 05:22 PM | #227 | |
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That doesn't make any sense. Everyone thinks it runs well cause the car is fast and doesn't seem to have drivability issues. But I would bet that monitoring real time actual values thru a factory level diagnostic would show that the parameters are increasing or decreasing due to this. Could it be safe ? Sure. Could another tune by some company adjust it better to benefit us more, I'm sure the answer is yes |
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08-08-2014, 06:06 PM | #228 | |
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There are no tunes at least here in the states lol J |
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08-08-2014, 06:31 PM | #229 | ||
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08-08-2014, 07:01 PM | #230 | |
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And how are you doing this ? There are a lot of variables that can take place. Dinan is a lot different then the BMS tune. And honestly, its not slower as your claim. I ran the BMS at 3.5 with catless and running higher rate fuel. Dinan stage 2 is just as fast and the power curve is a lot smoother. There is a large difference. Shifting is alot more crisp as well. Some other drivability characteristics that the BMS tune created are gone with the Dinan installed. Glad you enjoy your setup. As I previously stated, BMS works great. |
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If you mean the car isn't taking full advantage of boost, or isn't leveraging the added boost to its max, adding cats wont make the difference. A true tune with ability to tweak timing, fuel, throttle and all the parameters will give you the efficiency you mention.
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Come on now. That's not true at all. |
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I would like to see some Dinan performance numbers for the piggy back they offer. I think next to a BMS stage 1 3-4 lb boost increase you won't come close to the same power. The DMEs are so advance you don't have to play with them to get good results. Sometimes trying to do more doesn't always give more but complicates things a bit.
I'm running 6lb boost increase 100% meth and 93 octane and airfuels are high 11's to low 12's. running same setup with 100 octane air fuels are the same and car hauls ass and consistent. I made a custom intake and and at first install air fuels were crazy lean low 14's to high 13's, after all day adaption runs car came back to high 11's and low 12's. now that's what you call a smart as DME. And let me tell ya the gains are amazing. I knew when I saw those crazy lean numbers there was power to be made once fully adapted. After she was adapted I felt like I raised the boost by 1-2 lbs, crazy! I'm using my M5 as the test mule will be more consistent to see the power difference. I dynoed the M6 yesterday and the gains were crazy. Running the meth doesn't give consistent readings because it has a delay so the M5 will be best for tests Will do vbox and Dyno in stock form and then install the intake and do the same. I think a lot of people when they see the gains will be amazed. And even the Dyno showed crazy gains, imagine what it does on the street. G Last edited by m6beast; 08-15-2014 at 05:12 AM.. |
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Are you just plugging directly into the OBD port and what type of file are you running to monitor these during your dyno testing ? |
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08-15-2014, 11:36 AM | #240 | |
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Ordered more material will be in next week for those who want the set up. I will not market till I have real life and and documented gains. Already have two people who want the setup. Everything is CNC cut and hand made fabricated no cutting corners. This is nothing new for me I've done this same set up with my e36 M3, e39 M5, e63 M6 and now my F10/13 M5 and M6. This has always been a passion for me and a hobby and decided with my free time to take it to fellow members to enjoy as well. All in time my friend Who ever decides to get it won't be disappointed. |
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I have BMW dealer computer capability. No DME software will get on that once the intake is jigged and ready for market
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08-15-2014, 02:31 PM | #242 | |
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Can't wait to see those results! I know you've got your heart and soul into this! Good things to come! G
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