OK, Dinan Stage 2 and Cold Air Intake are on order

[wrsbmw]

Originally Posted by EuroKar

Correct. If the unit is not programed. You can still drive your car with no issues.

I think that is what he wanted to do. He wanted me to drive it around that way for a while and I told him I didn't need to because I had enough good data to prove my case so he said then to just reset it and I assume he means re-flash it. I hope they have a way to copy the map and restore it locally without having to download it at a snails pace from Dinan. It took them three hours to download it before.

[wrsbmw]

Originally Posted by 335iRlz

I just meant if they say well you gained some HP and we don't advertise x amount promised just "Up to" and oops your past the refund timeframe Tough S*.

I see your point but I think that the tech is willing to do HP based on ET because he sent me his preferred formula for that. Currently my ET's show no HP gain.

I will know more tomorrow and I am hoping for a positive resolution to all of this.

[boots]

I'm gonna see if I can get in a vbox run w and w/o bms.

[wrsbmw]

Originally Posted by boots

I'm gonna see if I can get in a vbox run w and w/o bms.

That would be good data to have. The nice thing about Vbox is that you can just upload the file to the vboxtools site and then post the results here for comparison.

[wrsbmw]

So I went in and spoke to the tech and the parts guy who sells the Dinan stuff and the net is that a new DTronics module is going to get put in place of the other and it's going to be flashed with the code. They are replacing it under warranty and shipping the other one back to Dinan. So tomorrow I will get my car back with new DPs and a new DTronics and hopefully I will be able to get it out there and run it.

[JPMD]

Thanks please keep us posted

[mcvaughan]

Fingers crossed!

[boots]

We can test again now u have the addition of your dp. That will be even more fun.

[EuroKar]

Originally Posted by wrsbmw

I think that is what he wanted to do. He wanted me to drive it around that way for a while and I told him I didn't need to because I had enough good data to prove my case so he said then to just reset it and I assume he means re-flash it. I hope they have a way to copy the map and restore it locally without having to download it at a snails pace from Dinan. It took them three hours to download it before.

The programming takes about 30 min max.
If it took 3 hours, something was going wrong.
I have experienced a bad ECU brand new in the box so maybe that was what was taking so long.
Hopefully it gets resolved. If you have questions regarding the products you can PM me and I'll give you any information you need

[wrsbmw]

So Elite Motorsports called back to say their dyno will be down for another week or two but that works out OK because I won't be able to drive my car again after Friday because I am going to take the Cayenne on a little road trip. So I will know more when we do the dyno and SW will dyno his which is a stock M5 with a CAI and no other mechanical mods. I hope to get some Vbox data tomorrow though.

[Spinny02]

Originally Posted by wrsbmw

So I went in and spoke to the tech and the parts guy who sells the Dinan stuff and the net is that a new DTronics module is going to get put in place of the other and it's going to be flashed with the code. They are replacing it under warranty and shipping the other one back to Dinan. So tomorrow I will get my car back with new DPs and a new DTronics and hopefully I will be able to get it out there and run it.

Good news

[wrsbmw]

Originally Posted by Spinny02

Good news

When are you getting yours?

[Spinny02]

Originally Posted by wrsbmw

When are you getting yours?

Never...pebble beach has all the transports busy! The car was supposed to leave last week.. Now maybe Friday or early next week for pick up.

[wrsbmw]

Originally Posted by Spinny02

Never...pebble beach has all the transports busy! The car was supposed to leave last week.. Now maybe Friday or early next week for pick up.

Ugh!, GRRRRR!

[NlckyBlack]

Originally Posted by m6beast

Lol! Dinan customers are paying for a warranty not for a performance product. To each their own, I'm more the performance minded and looking for the most out of my car then just a name.

Can't wait for your results would like to see what your car dynos before and after to compare to other vendors. Take care man and good luck!

At least if his turbo blows he'll get his covered under one of 2 warranties unlike if you blew your turbo with a non Dinan tune.

[houstonT]

I apologize in advance for not reading all 10 pages....do we have documented dyno gains with the dinan tune? It would be great to have a stock baseline dyno number and then a dyno number with the dinan tune.
Peter

[wrsbmw]

Originally Posted by houstonT

I apologize in advance for not reading all 10 pages....do we have documented dyno gains with the dinan tune? It would be great to have a stock baseline dyno number and then a dyno number with the dinan tune.
Peter

We are hoping to get that comparison in a couple of weeks.

[PetrolFumes]

So skimmed through a few pages here...is the moral of the story to just throw catless DPs on her snd runs the BMS piggy back?

[M5Rlz]

Originally Posted by MPowerrF10

So skimmed through a few pages here...is the moral of the story to just throw catless DPs on her snd runs the BMS piggy back?

Yup... Cheapest option to smack almost everything around except built lightweight cars or RS7s

[EuroKar]

Originally Posted by MPowerrF10

So skimmed through a few pages here...is the moral of the story to just throw catless DPs on her snd runs the BMS piggy back?

Don't use catless downpipes. There is not an appropriate tune to reprogram the software for this change. You are actually loosing performance from the vehicle across the board.
Regardless what anyone on forums say, if you contact any performance tuner they will agree that to use catless downpipes to your advantage you need to reprogram the computer for optimal gains.

[PetrolFumes]

Originally Posted by EuroKar

Don't use catless downpipes. There is not an appropriate tune to reprogram the software for this change. You are actually loosing performance from the vehicle across the board.
Regardless what anyone on forums say, if you contact any performance tuner they will agree that to use catless downpipes to your advantage you need to reprogram the computer for optimal gains.

so catted is better?

[Timberwolf]

Originally Posted by EuroKar

Don't use catless downpipes. There is not an appropriate tune to reprogram the software for this change. You are actually loosing performance from the vehicle across the board.
Regardless what anyone on forums say, if you contact any performance tuner they will agree that to use catless downpipes to your advantage you need to reprogram the computer for optimal gains.

Lol my dyno results and race results disagree with this theory entirely.
I ran another F10 with catted downpipes and JB and my setup was clearly quicker.
With just JB, turner exhaust, K&Ns my car made 647WHP on 93 pump and 692WHP with MS 109 added and no adaptation and in 5th gear so only to 6k rpms (top speed limiter)! That means over 700WHP when revving out to 7rpms.
So I'm politely saying I don't think you know what you're talking about.