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At this juncture, if i have a choice it's DCT. Hell, i'll take an auto 128i over a MT Golf GTI and i've owned a few of them. |
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I understand the emotional lamentation regarding the loss of the 3 pedal driving experience. I imagine that it is similar to the emotion around the loss of the hand-crank to start a car or even the horse and buggy. My M6 has the much maligned SMG and I wouldn't change it for the world. I like to know that the car I'm driving is still a car but still want to take advantage of the technology that allows a 65 millisecond shift. I'm actually a bit peeved that the i8 has an automatic transmission...a well programed automatic transmission but still automatic, nonetheless. I imagine that it has to do with the drivetrain synchronization between the electric motors and the ICE but I'm still not a fan. As far as DCT goes, I believe that it is the way forward for and car with sporting pretensions. The shifts are lightening fast and can be programmed to be as fierce or smooth as the character of the car demands. And on the track...let's be serious. Losing a minimum of .125 seconds each time one shifts has only one consequence: ONE LOSES. ONE LOSES BY MILES. I am putting on my flame-suit in order to deal with the, 'Purists'. Oh...I'll be in the paddock as you finish unlapping yourself!! Cheers-mk Last edited by MKSixer; 01-28-2016 at 07:51 AM.. |
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Similarly, the addition of an automatic mode on the SMG was also ill-conceived. That is the singular mistake that created the myth that the SMG is a poorly contrived instrument when the opposite is actually true. Once the driver learns to shift it properly, the SMG with reward you with amazing performance. If the driver simply yanks on the paddle's, the negative feedback is shocking. Like driving a 3 pedal, it is art and mechanical competence from the driver. A little more on the art side for the SMG because you have to learn to manipulate the robotic clutch with accelerator input. When it is done properly, a real symbiosis exists between the car and the driver. If the driver just yanks on the paddles, it is a nausea inducing, neck snapping nightmare...just like poor 3 pedal driving. Cheers-mk |
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01-28-2016, 09:27 AM | #22120 | |
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Driving is about sensation. Different cars and aspects of cars create sensations. I'll go ahead and assume you've never driven the L494 RRS Supercharged and give you a run down. It delivers over 2.5 tons of driving sensation. It's not as fast as the E92 M3 in a straight line, nor will it lap as quickly. But it sure as hell feels like it is. The throttle response is great, the seats are comfy and supportive with plenty of side bolster. The steering wheel has a great feel and looks attractive. The gauge cluster is clean and looks good. The torque is intoxicating and it plants you well into the seat back. The exhaust note is great. The sound system is fabulous. Driving around turns quickly delivers a sensation of being in the E92 M3, albeit at lower speeds. When sitting in traffic it's incredibly quiet and comfortable. Has averaged over 18mph for the life of it so far. If i need to grass pass someone, no problem. No parking spots, i'll make my own. Need to ford a stream, can do. But your probably right, getting a car based on how much momentum it carries through a turn is likely the most important metric to consider. And never mind my mistake of thinking that NO BMW owner EVER bought it for perceived status.
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01-28-2016, 09:34 AM | #22121 | |
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I personally think the SMG and DCT variants are wonderful inventions and are certainly superior to most in terms of quickness and consistency. I just have more fun doing the work. It's like golfing, for me, the whole round was enjoyable but that one good shot keeps brining you back. In the same way, that perfect rev-match downshift makes me strive for it again and again. I wish i could golf as well as i can rev-match.
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I'll take a 128i even with an auto over a luxury suv when it comes to driving fun. I love its size, it's a tossable car, great autocross car. Ps I'm not a stoplight or straight line racer so your 500hp or 1,000hp behemoth will never strike my fancy. Sorry! |
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That's strange because they're implying that they're still offering the MT up until late last year. They stopped offering the MT 4 or 5 years ago.
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No disagreement here...anything in the 1-4 range needs a manual option IMO.
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Nobody asked about how well an automatic SUV handles like a sports car. That's as insightful as me saying the 128i is worthless because it couldn't climb over the snowbank that got plowed in front of my driveway. |
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