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06-15-2011, 11:49 AM | #221 | |
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06-15-2011, 12:13 PM | #222 |
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Your math is wrong. 1870kg = 4114 pounds, 1945 kg = 4279 pounds
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06-15-2011, 12:14 PM | #223 | |
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S65 hits its HP peak at 8300rpm, and redline at 8400rpm.. I'm not following the drop you're mentioning..
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06-15-2011, 12:17 PM | #224 | |
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1 lb = 0.45359237 kg 1870kg = 4122.64430286lbs 1945kg = 4287.9909995lbs It is kinda funny though, it is such a heavy car, you really need to get enough digits to get it right
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06-15-2011, 12:24 PM | #225 |
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Kg is usually the KG times 2.2. hence your math was WAY off when mine was closer LOL.
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06-15-2011, 12:25 PM | #227 |
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Has anyone else noticed that the M5 WILL NOT be using Electrinc Assist Power Steering? It is noted in the Specs as Hydrualic Power steering :-)
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06-15-2011, 12:26 PM | #228 |
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Very impressive and available power band, 501 lb-ft of torque will pull like a train at 1500 rpm, this is a massive improvement over the v10's 371 lb-ft. The HP figures are however are little surprising, only 560, that is little to no more than the X5/X6 and this is supposed to be the flagship //M model. The shocker would be if this car dyno'd close 560 rwhp, which would be more proper for a car of this level. That 0-60 time must also be traction limited as well, it does not seem that fast for a car with this much power and such a seemingly advanced launch control system. I think we will know way more once this thing is independently tested down a 1/4 Mile track, I am very curious to see what it traps and the '60 times it can put down. I think the power numbers will be surprise everyone as well once this thing is put on a proper dyno and the tuners get their hands on this vehicle. I can see 700hp at the crank easily.
Only cons I can see here are typical BMW issues; weight, weight and more weight, if I was president of //M division, this is what I would focus on more than anything and try using more lightweight materials. |
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Oh, so by more hp than the X5/6M, they mean just 5 more. Got it.
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06-15-2011, 12:33 PM | #230 |
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Haha there is no "usually" here, it is 2.20462262185 (1/0.45....)
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06-15-2011, 12:37 PM | #232 |
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4300 lb sports car, come on.
I think it is gonna be better than the last M5 but too fat for anything revolutionary. Just an evolution. Plenty of 550 owners already have a porkchop. This is the same porkchop with more power. BMW needs to get fitter, lose the fat and then that improves all aspects of driving. Sorry guys, its gonna be huge $$$ and the next M3 sedan will still be a better all around car. GL to all those placing orders. It needs to be 3800 lbs or less. |
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The rear's a little too normal for me... But overall, what a beauty!
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It says Intelligent Light Weight Construction under Efficient Dynamics....
Where is it light, what light in the loafers. 4300 lb., wow Looking forward to 2014 M3 |
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06-15-2011, 12:48 PM | #236 |
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Well, M5 is not a track car. Still heavy for spirited driving etc, but it is not intended to be a track car..
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did a few touch ups, maybe more along the lines of what it will look like once you modders get to it.
original removed ugly reflectors, tinted, dropped it, etc.
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How with this compare to the Panamera s on the track?
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Watch the m5 testing video in Mirabas, France, they sure as anything try to pass it off as a track car, they even mention it. A wolf around the Nurgburgring; lol, watch how this heavy car gets thrown around like a tank.
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