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Exactly...got nothing to do with guns, knives, etc. It's the unbelievable lack of respect some people have towards others. That, along with priorities that are vastly out of whack in a modern society. Treat the disease, not the symptoms.
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07-26-2012, 05:03 PM | #266 | |
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That is the beauty of a free country. I don't need to justify why i have so much ammo. But if you must know, this is for when the zombies come. Ok, and some range shooting. Really though, an hour or two at the range will burn through 200 to 500 rounds of ammo. Ammo is cheaper when purchased in larger quantities most of the time and when i come across a good deal, i purchase. About it falling into the wrong hands, if that happened i don't think i would care because i would most likely be dead. But while i'm alive it's all locked up in this...... If guns for personal safety are fine then why are they not ok for target shooting at the range? Seems that you should be glad those who have them for personal defense frequently use them at the range so they have experience with handling them safely.
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I agree with collins, there are no reasons that i can think of to have a 100 round mag. Unless you're on patrol in Afghanistan. But do they need to be regulated? I don't know, i've never seen one owned by a private citizen and i don't think the incident in CO would have been much different if he didn't have one.
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Damm, Cant wait to buy a house so I can start building up my cache of guns and ammo. Still waiting on the Police Dept to return my 9mm after I shot a robber. I love America..
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"According to the Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA), in 2006, 96% of all firearms seized originated in or transited through the United States. " http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/ci-rc/repo.../index-eng.htm |
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But the point is he didn't have a gun and still chose to kill random people. 8 of them in fact. Only 4 less than someone wielding an assault rifle, shotgun and a pistol with more than 100 rounds of ammo and a captive target made of a few hundred people huddled closely together. Someone said treat the disease and not the problem. The disease is the human race. The gumption and ability to do such things come from people not the tools in which they use to do these things.
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It is illegal to buy, possess, and sell the following in the United States: Cocaine, Marijuana, Heroin.
How's that working out?
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How come you didn't mention all of western Europe? Or does that totally destroy your argument? I'd rather stay in this country and try to educate people like you
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The killer bought his guns legally So maybe, just maybe, if he could not simply walk into a store and buy enough ammo to start a civil war in some African countries This kind of rampage wouldn't have happened. You're assuming that the average man on the street could get guns if he were not allowed to legally? They can't in most developed countries Which is why if you look at western Europe This whole mad man shooting randomly at innocent people, doesn't happen every few months. This shit only happens here, and you have free access to weapons I'm sorry but I can't not make a link between the 2
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One question I'd love to ask all the gun lovers
What would you suggest to help stop this kind of incident from happening? You're all strongly against more gun laws, so what other measures could we do to stop this? Or is this killing rate within acceptable tolerances? So it's ok to own as many guns and bullets as possible, if we lose 10-20 people every few months, fuck it?
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Out of the knives, baseball bats and hockey sticks that you mention....how many of them are illegal to obtain in our country??? If you're going to contribute, at least post something reasonably intelligent. |
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You see you can easily find a spread sheet showing how many firearm deaths there are per country and a separate sheet showing how many guns there are per country. But none that show them on the same sheet. So i took the liberty of putting them on one sheet. This one as you can see is sorted by number of firearm homicides per 100,000 residents, from highest to lowest. Notice that all the countries above the US have a fraction of the guns the US has and that as the homicide rates drop, some of the gun quantities go up a bit compared with most of the countries that have a higher homicide rate than the US. Note that the only nation on this list who's statistics are made up of 3 years rather than 1 is the US. Cutting 4.14 by 3 probably doesn't work, but it might be safe to say that because the US statistics are drawn from a span of 3 years the number of homicides per 100,000 would be lower, if only marginally. This one is sorted by number of guns per 100 residents.
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Ummm....I posted this information on PAGE ONE. This makes it much simpler. |
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BTW, your numbers are quiet exaggerated. Not saying that the actual numbers are justified. Just saying people might take you more seriously with more accurate figures.
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Graph two - has nothing to do with firearms. Your post doesn't make anything simpler, it's just simply less complete. I'm not thrilled about stats but with the way some people in here are spouting off about the lunacy of the US i figured those people might be surprised by the statistics of the US as well as some other countries with on 10% of the guns but 12 times more firearm homicides.
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Very interesting
However, glancing at it quickly on my iPad Most countries in western Europe have less than 1 death per 100 residents. So the US has at least 4 times as many homicides as most of western Europe. The reason I always mention western Europe is that the majority of Americans are originally from there, so I think it's a valid comparison. These very same people, with less guns, kill less. The majority of western European countries have roughly 1/10 the number of guns as the US And roughly 1/8th the number of murders On a lighter note They really get their money's worth of their guns in El Salvador Every gun is responsible for almost 10 deaths
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To countries that are under developed, poor, and with drug violence brewing
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