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He said 8 Cyl with at least 600HP
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He said 8 Cyl with at least 600HP
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05-27-2015, 06:22 PM | #26 |
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]watch from 1:00 on... what is that car in front of the M2 mule?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=59&v=9SYTpDHVh_U [u2b]https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=59&v=9SYTpDHVh_U[/u2b]
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05-27-2015, 11:16 PM | #30 |
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Thanks, that'll be great. Hopefully, they'll continue to refine the motor and dct in the next iteration of m5!
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Cheapest way is just do a carryover. Auto Bild speculate it also could be a turbo six with electric motor. Oh well, whatever the case, I am sure it will be faster than the current one.
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I know you will probably be right, but I don't want you to be buddy. Doesn't anyone care if M uses the same old technology and throws it in their new cars? Where's the innovation? Where's the creativity? Where's the bespokeness? While I agree that the S63tu is one of the best designs, we have to remember it wasn't a designed from scratch engine like the S85 was. I guess I'm still a little old school and still clinging to the old ways. Hard to let go and hard to embrace a future where M Division simply recycles, re-tweaks, or improves on an existing design in the name of cost savings, efficiency, and ease of design. No doubt the S63tu is a unit with massive potential though. It's a great engine, but I will always prefer something new and groundbreaking. I also agree with your concerns about chassis dynamics and suspension designs.
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E90 m3 was thought as too heavy and f80 comes in slightly lower.
If g series comes in same or slightly lower I would imagine they will spin it as a victory with the addition of awd. And I just assumed they would add electric power based on their i division I just hope and pray they keep the manual option for the US customers... |
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Three questions:
1) Will it have AT LEAST 8 cylinders? 2) Will there be an ESTATE TOURING WAGON variant for the next M5? (especially since BMW is planning on making an M3 touring sometime this year) and somewhat slightly off-topic 3) Has BMW changed their mind for the BMW M7??? (with Norbert Reithofer gone, does that mean that incoming BMW CEO Harald Kreuger would warm up to the idea of an M7) Quote:
And yeah, from what I've heard in the audiophile world Bowers & Wilkins rates higher than Bang & Olufsen Bowers & Wilkins > Bang & Olufsen For anyone that is buying a new Volvo (e.g. XC90) or any new Maserati (e.g. Quattroporte, Ghibli, etc.), then you MUST get B&W!!! It is expensive though so you have to have $$$ to avail it. The cost though is the reason why Jaguar ditched them....and went with Meridian Audio instead. P.S. The XC90 only comes in the 4 cylinders? Do you believe that this adequate enough for an SUV of this class? Yes or no? Would it make the car less refined? |
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XC90 engine, and all future Volvo engines, will be 4 cyl... This one is a 316HP/300Nftlb supercharged and turbocharged variant. The engine hold high torque across the power band and with it this tank of a vehicle does 0-60 in 6.1 seconds (basically the same as the X5d). I think it will be more than enough engine for my wife as her DD. I seriously shopped the X5 and even possibly the X5M, but the XC90 had so many more safety features, and a much newer and nicer design -- at about $20K cheaper that's just more money in my pocket for my next future M car. On your comments about estate/touring M... sadly, not going to happen especially for the US. Scott 26 has commented multiple times on this.. the 3-series wagon is dying out as a whole, no plans to do an F11 M5 for anywhere. They see the future for BMW in this size range as the fugly GT variants and the X5/X6. Evidently, they see no threat from the RS6 Avant or the AMG E63-S wagon. While I am in Europe, and if the Euro remains weak against the dollar, I am going to seriously consider getting an Alpine B5 touring, knowing that I will never be able to bring this awesome car back to the states.
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back to the main point of this thread... Scott26 has been dropping more bombs in the CSL thread that talk of future M cars and their motors:
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Well shite, this is probably going to be the drive train for the next M5/M6. I need time to digest this.
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