My new 911 Turbo S: There is no substitute for traction

Hoopumpers · 06-01-2016, 11:42 PM

Congrats stealth. Great car and great write up. Another cause for #2 in positive column is rear engine weight bias. One of the beautiful characteristics of the 911

Have fun and stay safe

M5essex · 06-02-2016, 06:15 AM

Congrats Stealth

we have a matching pair! colour, interior, age and mileage..!

any plans for a tune, drop or other mods?

stealth.pilot · 06-02-2016, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by M5essex

Congrats Stealth

we have a matching pair! colour, interior, age and mileage..!

any plans for a tune, drop or other mods?

Just radar and laser jammers. Already have exhaust, 100 cel cats, clear bra and tint.

No interest in tune or lowering. Find the car is already plenty low and I am paranoid about damaging the front aero. Plus I think the handling and power are already perfect.

I did see your car and it looks smashing. The color combo I would have loved was Sapphire Blue with Espresso/Cognac interior (@coldlist if you are reading get this in a coupe so I can buy it off you later), but this is a close second and it has all the right options.

ColdList · 06-02-2016, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by stealth.pilot

Just radar and laser jammers. Already have exhaust, 100 cel cats, clear bra and tint.

No interest in tune or lowering. Find the car is already plenty low and I am paranoid about damaging the front aero. Plus I think the handling and power are already perfect.

I did see your car and it looks smashing. The color combo I would have loved was Sapphire Blue with Espresso/Cognac interior (@coldlist if you are reading get this in a coupe so I can buy it off you later), but this is a close second and it has all the right options.

lol! My mind changes so fast! Going to hold off until August to see what I do with 488 and 657LT Spider.

stealth.pilot · 06-02-2016, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ColdList

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Originally Posted by stealth.pilot

Just radar and laser jammers. Already have exhaust, 100 cel cats, clear bra and tint.

No interest in tune or lowering. Find the car is already plenty low and I am paranoid about damaging the front aero. Plus I think the handling and power are already perfect.

I did see your car and it looks smashing. The color combo I would have loved was Sapphire Blue with Espresso/Cognac interior (@coldlist if you are reading get this in a coupe so I can buy it off you later), but this is a close second and it has all the right options.

lol! My mind changes so fast! Going to hold off until August to see what I do with 488 and 657LT Spider.

You need traction for the winter season!

ColdList · 06-02-2016, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by stealth.pilot

You need traction for the winter season!

LOL! You think you moved "North" when you came to GA!-LOL

Not an ounce of snow last year!

M6-Coupe · 06-02-2016, 09:23 PM

Congrats!

Trakrzy · 06-03-2016, 09:28 AM

That's a good looking color combination. Congratulations Stealth.

I noted in your description that you mentioned a big sense of control and that you can use power oversteer in public. I enjoy this feature in my f-type when safe and have held off against going for a 16 because they went AWD in the 8...would you say that it is rear biased enough to allow you enough slip around the back? Does traction breakaway as easily as the R or is it more smooth and progressive?

I gotta make time and go drive the car.

Thanks!

stealth.pilot · 06-03-2016, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Trakrzy

That's a good looking color combination. Congratulations Stealth.

I noted in your description that you mentioned a big sense of control and that you can use power oversteer in public. I enjoy this feature in my f-type when safe and have held off against going for a 16 because they went AWD in the 8...would you say that it is rear biased enough to allow you enough slip around the back? Does traction breakaway as easily as the R or is it more smooth and progressive?

I gotta make time and go drive the car.

Thanks!

It does not break away easily like the F-Type. Which is what I like about this car. I found the lack of traction on the F-type somewhat problematic.

boots · 06-03-2016, 11:35 AM

I can always take the 488 off your hands.

stealth.pilot · 06-03-2016, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ColdList

LOL! You think you moved "North" when you came to GA!-LOL

Not an ounce of snow last year!

It still felt like being north of the wall. The winter was brutal.

combatbmw · 06-03-2016, 03:36 PM

Thanks for this review.
My next Daily driver right here.

Glad you like it, can't wait to get one.

avlnch · 06-03-2016, 07:48 PM

Congrats on the 991, looks great. It is quite a car. I have europipe exhaust as well, that burble in sport mode upon deceleration never gets old.

The front aero is not as fragile as you think. I have scraped it on the tarmac twice. It's actually rather flexible and the "airbags" behind it are durable as well. Afterwards you see some contact marks on the rubber lip, which promptly disappear after a quick wash/detail.

If you press and hold the spoiler button (ignition on or engine on), they will retract or extend on demand. The rear takes about 3 seconds and the front takes about 10 seconds.

Vic55 · 06-04-2016, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by stealth.pilot

It still felt like being north of the wall. The winter was brutal.

HODOR

ColdList · 06-04-2016, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by stealth.pilot

It still felt like being north of the wall. The winter was brutal.

As usual, I caved. I guess the top will have to go up during the next Icepocalypse-LOL

patb23 · 06-04-2016, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ColdList

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Originally Posted by stealth.pilot

It still felt like being north of the wall. The winter was brutal.

As usual, I caved. I guess the top will have to go up during the next Icepocalypse-LOL

Wow!!! Very nice!!!

Bimmer6 · 06-04-2016, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ColdList

As usual, I caved. I guess the top will have to go up during the next Icepocalypse-LOL

Mr. deeds is back at it

ColdList · 06-04-2016, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by patb23

Wow!!! Very nice!!!

Thx!

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Mr. deeds is back at it

Haha fool! Traded Vette and selling Jeep. 2 into 1

OK....didn't mean to hijack the tread. Back to our regular programming.

Bimmer6 · 06-04-2016, 05:43 PM

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Thx!

Haha fool! Traded Vette and selling Jeep. 2 into 1

OK....didn't mean to hijack the tread. Back to our regular programming.

Ha ok the gap is still 100k

elitex · 06-04-2016, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ColdList

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Originally Posted by stealth.pilot

It still felt like being north of the wall. The winter was brutal.

As usual, I caved. I guess the top will have to go up during the next Icepocalypse-LOL

Lol wow.... Hennessy?

Vic55 · 06-05-2016, 12:00 PM

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Ha ok the gap is still 100k

LOL I know at 219k msrp that is a heavily loaded Vert

WCH · 06-05-2016, 04:12 PM

Congrats to both the OP and Coldlist.

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