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This is now, this incident. Did LH’s or Vettel’s parents go public with personal stuff to? |
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11-17-2022, 09:27 AM | #466 |
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Red Bull Racing press release of today.
"A Comment Following The Brazil GP The Team has released the following comment. Written by Oracle Red Bull Racing Published on 17.11.2022 · 12:00 UTC+1 https://www.redbullracing.com/int-en...zil-grand-prix As a team we made some mistakes in Brazil. We had not envisaged the situation that unfolded on the last lap and we had not agreed a strategy for such a scenario before the race. Regretfully, Max was only informed at the final corner of the request to give up position without all the necessary information being relayed. This put Max, who has always been an open and fair team player, in a compromising situation with little time to react which was not our intention. Following the race Max spoke openly and honestly, allowing for both drivers to resolve any outstanding issues or concerns. The Team accept Max's reasoning, the conversation was a personal matter which will remain private between the team and no further comment will be made. The events that followed from a social media point of view are completely unacceptable. The abusive online behaviour towards Max, Checo, the Team and their respective families is shocking and saddening and unfortunately is something that we as a sport are having to address with depressing regularity. There is no place for it in racing or society as a whole and we need to do and be better. At the end of the day this is a sport, we are here to race. Death threats, hate mail, vitriol towards extended family members is deplorable. We value inclusion and want a safe space for everyone to work in and enjoy our sport. The abuse needs to stop."
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11-17-2022, 09:31 AM | #469 | |
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I don't approve but I also don't approve of the stuff being written to the Verstappen family either. Max is Max. Whether his parent made a mistake by defending their child is a separate issue. |
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11-17-2022, 09:37 AM | #470 |
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No it all sucks but it is what it is. It’s all related in the sense that it needs to stop across the board. Maybe stop calling people c*nts to start? I’m no saint but I’ve definitely tried to dial it back and get along with those I don’t like here. It starts small but hopefully helps with the overall behavior. Obviously I’m skeptical.
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I think we can all agree that things get out of hand and this behavior is unbecoming but that's life. This is what annoys so many about cheap virtue signaling from some of the drivers. Almost everyone knows what good etiquette is and yet we still break it often. In reality, we can all acknowledge garbage behavior but the optimal solution is to develop thicker skin. Yes, there are some extreme behaviors that don't fall into the conversation but calling someone or their family a doodie head on social media is trashy just like saying someone cheated on their wife is trashy but these aren't things that anyone can control without damaging the big picture. |
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My point with this situation is Max and his family started some public sh@!. And they and you shouldn’t be surprised with the reaction they are getting, especially with what you wrote here. I don’t agree with it at all, everyone (including me at times) needs to stop being so emotional. |
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I dunno man, Max’s mom crossed the biggest unwritten rule in sports. Most of these guys are idiots like Checo when it comes to their married life but they know not to call each other out on it.
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I think as minn19 said and I've said in the past the vitriol that Red Bull has stirred up is coming back to bite them. I've said before this season they are losing their cool factor on and off the track and what Max did in Brazil has only made that worse.
Many many new supports have joined the sport because of Max and that's great but it's sooo much more than just rivalry. The sport is super complex on and off the track and many are only just learning that, these aren't people that are going in for a tackle or a header that might hurt a bit tomorrow, a daft move and someone is potentially dead. The fact thankfully that many don't get seriously hurt forget that, but its ever present. As for the online abuse, I don't agree with everyone on here but there is NO PLACE for any of the abuse, attacks and threats online. For me, if you can't say something that you wouldn't over a pint in a pub face to face then you shouldn't say it at all IMO. |
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I'm specifically arguing that there's nothing you can do about it except get thicker skin. Any forced measures would be detrimental to everyone as a whole. |
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This forum moderates people being racist, aggressive or threatening and long may it be the case, people shouldn't need to have a thicker skin due to other people's abhorrent behaviour which is exactly what Max is saying. Abuse shouldn't be stud for in any for of life, banter, well that's different but it is a fine line for some and I get that element some people need to be less woke. |
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