07-09-2012, 10:39 AM | #45 |
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I finally decided to get the B&O system even if I have not heard it personally (maybe due to plain vanity). I decided based on info I have gathered from sound engineers from work (major broadcast/media company). They have explained to me that although there is no substitute from hearing the actual sound using ones ears and either liking/not liking it, B&O sound engineers will have configured and set the system through instrumentation, produced by the B&O system in such a way that 95% of listeners would find the sound generated to be superb. If I do not get the B&O system I might later on regret it -- the worst that could happen is that, the B&O would sound the same as the default sound system. It being worse than the default is highly unlikely -- so these sound engineers tell me. Anyway, since I could afford it, I just got it.
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07-09-2012, 10:46 AM | #46 |
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I decided to pull the trigger on it as well...calling the dealer today to modify my build. Figured that for the ~$3300USD it is worth it - just for piece of mind knowing that regarding factory sound there was no better available.
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07-09-2012, 01:27 PM | #47 |
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That was kinda my take on it. I'm fairly sure it's money being spent purely for peace of mind, I doubt I'll ever hear the difference. But god damn if I didn't do it I know I'd always wonder if I should have.
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07-09-2012, 01:46 PM | #48 |
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Good decision to order B&O. I can assure you will not be dissapointed
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07-09-2012, 05:15 PM | #50 |
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True...
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07-09-2012, 07:09 PM | #51 |
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Apparently this is not available for CDN orders? I have a call into Town + Country BMW to find out for sure...
But the new order guide says no: 2013 Retail Price - 6.M6.M5 -J |
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Anyway, would it be very prohibitive for a Canadian to order the car from a U.S. dealer for ED and then have it shipped to the dealer or to the PC for pick up and then driven to Canada? Of course the appropriate Canadian customs duties would have to be paid. |
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07-09-2012, 07:48 PM | #55 |
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They have ED for Canada, we just don't get a price discount. We don't pay any MORE than normal delivery, but they don't hack 6k off either
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07-09-2012, 07:59 PM | #56 |
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I think that is true too not only with BMW models but with other items such as Photographic equipment. Whenever my Canadian friends come over, they splurge on camera items at stores like B&H, Adorama, etc.
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07-09-2012, 08:25 PM | #57 |
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I understand the difference in price is largely, if not entirely, the excise tax on new cars going from Germany to the US. With ED, the excise tax does not apply since the car is a used vehicle.
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07-10-2012, 06:33 PM | #59 |
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Well, got some answers.
Bang and Olufsen sound system: Available through special order for CA: $5900 + $400.00 ZSP Special Order fee. Lol wtf? $6300 for a sound system? Please... To summarize the other items I asked them: - Frozen paint is $5400, unless you want white which is $6900. And only 2 / month are available worldwide. - ED is still available for Canada apparently. So yeah, I'd have to think pretty hard before dropping $6300 on a sound system in a car. -J |
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In UK it's £3750 = $5800, in Germany 3960 euro = $4800, and here in Norway 43700 NOK = over $7100... Just saying.
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07-11-2012, 09:58 AM | #62 |
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Ouch that sucks. I see the pricing on the B&O system in a whole new light now - its like we US buyers have a 50% off coupon lol.
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07-11-2012, 10:16 AM | #63 |
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B&O has always been about advance mechanical engineering, they are top notch. That doesn't mean it sounded bad, it just not as good as its price (same case with Bose). No, I don't hate them, in fact I love them since 1995 with Beolab penta and Beomaster 5500 as my first B&O audio system.
I do believe their much needed sound quality will improve drastically in the near future with the arrival of Lars Goller on their team. This guy is an acoustic genius. |
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07-11-2012, 10:18 AM | #64 |
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It's a steal for $3700....LOL
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07-11-2012, 10:57 AM | #65 |
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Plus there's no way you'll get the full potential of an audio system in a moving car. A car is an awful acoustic environment and no stock system, I don't care how good it is, is going to compensate for the environment without a lot of signal processing.
That's what makes the B&O system hard to swallow for me. I will want to try it out ON THE ROAD not in the showroom. Showroom testing doesn't mean anything because that's NOT where you'll be using it, and on the road it all changes. We'll see how it holds up to some Spanish Harlem at 120kph -J |
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As a long time music lover and audiophile I can tell you that B+O is at the utter bottom pf anyone's list of good sounding home audio. They have always been and remain strictly about visual design for people with nice homes who want something "snazzy" but care not a wit what it sounds like. They are utterly unqualified as a company to produce ANYTHING that SOUNDS good. I challenge you to find their products in any high end audio store or review magazine.
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