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To wakeofdeath's statement, "I support real tuners" is pure nonsense. I guess Pure Turbos doesn't work with a "real tuner" either. We did some initial testing with one of their customers F80 M3 and we had great success. IMO, if it wasn't for BR, there would be no "F" chassis tuning as they have set the stage for all the tuners developing the platform currently. There are many ways to tune a car and I don't believe one way is better than the other. Different tuners use different approaches and as long as you are making good safe power while keeping the drivability of the car the same, you have done a good job. All_Motor's runs one tune and a JB4 and I run a different tune and JB4 but yet we both are at similar power levels. We are both making almost 300whp more than stock power levels which wouldn't be possible without bench flash tuning, JB4 or Pure Turbos. Kudos to all the people that keep pushing the envelope with this platform and I am excited to see what the Pure Stage 2 turbos can do for this platform. Last edited by frozenman; 05-04-2016 at 11:46 PM.. |
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05-04-2016, 11:57 PM | #69 |
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Its a little more complicated than that. Not only do you need the software to tune the file but also the tool to read and write the file to the DME.
Many options in terms of the brand of the tool and software you choose to use... Tool pricing starts at about $8K (which is for a minimal set of make/model of cars) and goes up as much as $25k (which includes all the different makes/models of cars). This stuff is not cheap. Plus, tuning these DMEs requires many years of experience with tuning in general while knowing how to define tables where all the parameters are stored. Not an easy job. |
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05-05-2016, 08:50 AM | #70 | |
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05-05-2016, 09:05 AM | #71 | |
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Found out we have MEDV17.2.8 and can use KTAG tool to flash (Alientech brand?). http://www.tuningfiles.com/tools/ali...flashing-tool/ Can also use CMD OBD/Boot/BDM version with Fxx plugin that comes with adapter. ECU has to be physically accessed with direct connection to MPC with adapter (or some have BDM port where you use BDM cable). So what to buy? Master/Slave kit? Slave kit if you want to use someone else's remaps, Master tool is open and can flash remaps from all providers (Slave tool has all protocols included). If you go with Master you have to select tricore protocols... Thought I'd do a little digging as the tuners never really go into detail about what they do or how they do it. |
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05-05-2016, 09:43 AM | #72 | |
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BR was able to unlock the ECU by figuring out the way to extract the ECU key. It's a service mode doorway which requires an oscillator at a certain frequency which unlocked the key. After that it is basically Infineon Tri-core boot mode read/write. After that folks use OLS to change the load targets. That's why any guy with a Facebook account and halfway computer literate can create a tune. Now not all tuners are the same and some actually explore further and actually try to understand how the car works. You need to align with one of those as you can seriously screw something up by randomly changing things. Similarly there is one guy who broke the OBD2 encryption so now we can flash via cable ONCE the ECU codes are read. Right now we are limited by the turbos - tunes only changed the power curve and that can affect your times and not really peak power. Don't drink all the kool-aid, this isn't rocket science and a 'tooner' will make most his investment back with just one flash sale. |
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The picture you posted, Lol Last edited by frozenman; 05-05-2016 at 10:48 AM.. |
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If you bought a master tool yes, You can adapt your file
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All this bickering could be time better spent coming up with tunes that'll adjust boost without the use of a JB4/BCM since they can't be used on the S63 E70 X5M ;-)
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That is killer impressive for 5500 lbs. Can you post some logged data ? How many passes ? I've been curious how much hp the transfer case and trans could handle....looks like a lot.
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That's an S63TU, not the S63 in the first gen X5M. Awesome numbers though, I'm jealous...fastest S63 I can recall is an 11.9 from PP Performance.
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