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If you live in SoCal, I will show you.
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next time i'm in socal with my m, i'll take you up on that
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11-27-2012, 08:36 PM | #69 |
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Well for those considering the Panamera keep in mind that there is a major refresh coming for 2014. So if you can wait I suggest holding out, Porsche's lifecycle updates are not light and usually quite noticeable. All great cars (TT, M5, 991) and I considered getting into another Porsche but honestly need a change and it had to stay MT. The GTS (like the new 991) has a sound symposer that brings intake sounds (others as well) into the cabin. Does wonders to give you a true feeling of the car- hoping the Akro can do the same for the ///M
http://www.caranddriver.com/features...ined-tech-dept
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Pulled the trigger. GTS. I actually love the big fat rear. The wide look is why I loved my RS4 and all of the M cars and the main reason I did not go M5. I wanted more of a motorsport look with bigger flares and cool details like that. On lease, this about 20% more than the M5 so value is not there. I am no brand whore, just really preferred the looks of the Panamera inside and out. Thanks for all of the opinions and will post better pics and a review later.
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11-30-2012, 11:20 PM | #71 |
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Congrats on your GTS, surely a remarkable ride. I got my car finally and my beloved Targa is sitting in the driveway lonely. The M5 is such a hooligan with all these personalities combined. Its the entire package that blows me away - comfort, tech, power, and brutal performance. Its definitely not as nimble as my 911 but it has a lot of elements that make up for its lack of Porsche steering and handling. I have had about 8 people in my car since day one and I have never had so many compliments on a ride. I highly recommend the manual transmission!
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I have been in your camp too. But after test driving 991S...I was sold.. First reason there no comparison with any other car I can think of, the way it drives, sounds, handles etc...secondly, I don't think I'm ready for another turbo BMW or any other turbo car (sorry it's just my opinion). I got 2 kids, 8 and 11 ... I had them sit in the back seat of 991S and play with their iPads while we were at dealership for well over an hour...they had leg room and convinced me this the one I need to get. We take short trips to the city 40-50 min one way and they're thrilled to even think about it...(I'm about 5'10" and my wife is 5'7" with above average height kids, especially my older one)... I know in few years they won't be able to fit well (I can't fit in the back comfortably) but what the he**...I ended up placing an order for 991 4S (it just completed its build today...on the boat in a couple of days), which ended up costing me ~$170K. My wife drives a GX which we may upgrade to new GL in few years but I plan to use 991 as my daily driver...i am glad you made the right decision getting the p-car...there's no substitute period!
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What're your pana gts specs?
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Plain jane GTS, with some interior bits. The Panamera GTS has the Turbo brakes, some engine parts from the Turbo S, a similar exhaust package as the 991, and a lower standard suspension of 10MM. It is like my E92 got bigger and more bad ass.
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12-02-2012, 02:27 AM | #78 |
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Nice analogy
Couldn't agree more...I evaluated pana gts for a little bit but its just too big to fit in my 1 car garage...
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I just can't seem to spend 120k+ for a <450HP big 4 door. :/
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Well this thread has gotten really interesting. Frankly speaking I find it completely unfair to compare the 911S, M5, Panamera (GTS,TT)... when we are not even talking about the same price range or capability. On the price side, 25% more for any car is a heck of a lot of money when we are talking about 30-40k difference. I bought my M5 "out the door" for what the GTS base price here in Canada is. All the 911S cars I spec'd were also about 25k more for "similar" options and don't get me started on the massive price of entry for a Panamera TT.
People that get off comparing these cars are doing injustice to the M5 and the car industry as a whole. None of these cars can carry 5 passengers comfortably, none of these cars can fit 4 massive golf bags comfortable, and none of these cars have the impressive technology that the new idrive brings (office, bmw assist, apps) etc. Yes the Porsche's "may" drive and "sound" better but you are paying good $$ for it! And finally (this is for me) only the M5 comes in a traditional 6MT with a nice soft clutch for plenty of easy city driving.
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I have had 6 BMWS in a row, a really good sales guy, and wanted nothing more than to get a M5/M6, but in the end, the cars were not a right fit for me. There is no judgement for me. The M5 is not an extension or "promotion" from the M3, which is what I wanted. I wanted a car that drove like the M3 with more room. The M5 is not that car and it does not drive like that. It drives like a super fast, super tech, and lux sedan. I think this is what BMW designed and marketed the M5 for, a true executive sports sedan. The M5 is an awesome car, just not for me. Thanks. |
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We all have different things we are looking for in a car and different budgets, so there really is no universal "best" car out of this bunch. They are all great cars. Try them all and pick that which meets all your needs (both rationally and emotionally).
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really wasn't that impressed with the 991S after taking it for an extended test drive for the entire day. Will wait for the Turbo and GT3/RS variants and re-evaluate.
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i am now happy with the M5 but still lust for another car with a more involving drive. at this point i shall sign a pre-contract for a porsche GT3 2013 very soon. this will solve the problem for me and quench the desire---))) peter |
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