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01-18-2016, 01:14 PM | #67 |
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Not sure how well you think they hold but right now there is a 2015 650s spider in Green with 7k miles on the clock priced at 240k. I believe the MSRP was 330k or so... Newport has it
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That's a lot of miles--- I had an option to get a green one with about 760 miles for 220k'ish but I just don't need that car as a replacement for my FF. I need a daily GT cruiser.
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Part 2 of the question is easy...675LT!!!! I'm not sure any vehicle will compete on the fun factor except the upcoming P14 which is light years ahead in tech form what I understand...teaser: laser lights
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Seriously, for $200K you can't touch this car. Really didn't feel slower than my 650S but I know it is...slightly. I think you would be very hard pressed to buy a 991 TTS or an R8 after driving this. It's really crazy. McLaren has gotten really smart in this segment. Comfy and RIDICULOUSLY fun! And boy does it get looks. Again...the doors go up! :-) |
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Trust me. I'm not a fan of the McLaren depreciation considering how much money I have lost in favor of the unmatched fun! But McLaren is coming into it's own. They are establishing a very good following with lots of people converting. They have also cut production numbers and are sensitive to allocating higher numbers of the more desirable cars so that the market absorbs them and supply is not outweighing demand. Although the real reason to purchase is the fun. There's just not much real comparison. Short of a hypercar there is no car that yo could give me 2 of in exchange for my 675LT. It exceeds everything I have ever driven in excitement by miles.
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I believe what cold is saying is they are trending towards the right direction, but still have the ability to go either way. Botch it, or grab hold of a tangible place in the market with controlled production numbers and good quality. Also that he personally has yet to experience something as fun, and as such the fun has outweighed the disadvantages surrounding depreciation or the catastrophe if they hit a misstep.
My read on his comments. Proceed with caution but if you can have the fun. Have at it. |
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One thing to consider re: the comparison with Ferrari and 'depreciation curves', etc:
McClaren has very little history making 'road vehicles' (the F1 doesn't count in this argument), whereas Ferrari has been making them for decades, and manipulating the market to a great extent. Who's to say that McClarens in the future won't start to hold value to a greater extent once build quality; running costs; the used market forces, etc come into play once the damn cars have been on the road for more than 3/4 years!! Vic you have so much more knowledge of the 'market' than I. Do you think that when the marque becomes far more established and creates an history there could well be a firming up of the used prices? As an Ex-Pat I really hope that the Maccas do great. I just wish I could buy Mike's 675LT when he trades it in!!! lol Bish |
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My only knock on McCl is that they need more differentiation in design exterior and interior for the higher end models. It's great for entry level people like me in the 570s but your interior in the 675LT should really be a different experience. You pay that type of money and it should be way above the model that costs 200k less. But they are really putting out a great product and it's a great time to be an American with money who likes cars. |
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Cold, is it easier to get in and out of the 570S?
I have my eyes squarely locked on to the next P14. Mac technology is miles ahead of Ferrari. How many mass produced sports car out there can boast a carbon fiber tub? Ferrari's own CF solution on series production cars is no where in sight. Mac seems to have learned their lesson with the 12C and are starting to make fun to drive cars. They sure do learn fast. Doubters can continue to doubt, but Mac isn't standing still. One slight complain though, they should improve the sound of their V8s next. Not that it sounds terrible, but could do with more distinction and character. Quote:
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I don't know why but looks like for the first time I agree with you LOL
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You can compare specs here: 12C: http://cars.mclaren.com/files/live/s...%20Spec_V6.pdf 570s: http://cars.mclaren.com/files/live/s...cification.pdf
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I guess the only advantage right now to the 12C, is that you can pick up a Spyder version for 180K or less these days, that is until the 570S Spyder comes out.
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You can tune the 570S--- its the same engine as the 650S with tweak to bring the hp down... I have no doubt there will be a readily available tune for this car very soon.
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