F1 2022: Australian GP - Melbourne (Apr 10)

NYG · 03-29-2022, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by F87source

Well it's gotta suck to see McLaren struggle then, and it's probably gonna suck for awhile as they try to recover.

It's awful but it helps that we have Max v Charles and that I'm a fan of both since they got into F1. I'll still support Max over Charles but it really makes the races more enjoyable when I'm not too upset with the result regardless of who wins. Reminds me a little of Mikka vs Schumacher. They were both such savages.

Ferrari being competitive is a necessity for F1, otherwise it feels really weird.

Bubbles · 03-29-2022, 12:39 PM

Ferrari

PU: impressive power unit, likely best in class at the moment. They ran detuned in Bahrain but in the final 10 laps in Saudi LeClerc switched the PU into the top two power deployment modes to keep up with Max.

Interestingly, Sainz experienced clipping during the race.

AERO:Aero improvement will bring massive top speed bump, likely to occur by Imola. Huge upside here.

Red Bull

PU: On par or slightly behind Ferrari. Battery deployment seems off at the moment for reliability and performance. Max had clipping during the race. Ferrari is well ahead in low and mid speed acceleration. They have a few months to improve here before the window closes.

AERO: Aero is top class at the moment and will continue to improve for mid and low speed.

BRAKES: Cooling remains a problem with high temps, Max suffered with this issue during the race.

Merc

PU: running in detuned mode until aero is sorted, Russell showed decent pace, see graph for a Max v Rus comparison. First sector Max had DRS. Merc has a decent PU that has yet to be run full beans due to handling issues.

AERO: Major work required here, suspension geometry must be improved.

NYG · 03-29-2022, 12:48 PM

Great post Bubbles

Humdizzle · 03-29-2022, 12:51 PM

historically a fast track. which will favor Ferrari and RB. i'd lean ferrari here.

but who knows. we know the racing gods are not kind and ferrari is long overdue for a mishap lol.

NYG · 03-29-2022, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Humdizzle

historically a fast track. which will favor Ferrari and RB. i'd lean ferrari here.

but who knows. we know the racing gods are not kind and ferrari is long overdue for a mishap lol.

Off topic but would love to see some pics of your 458

Humdizzle · 03-29-2022, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by NYG

Off topic but would love to see some pics of your 458

here you go: https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1738250

great car. mine was lowered with novitec springs, spacers, and tubi exhaust.

NYG · 03-29-2022, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Humdizzle

here you go: https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1738250

great car. mine was lowered with novitec springs, spacers, and tubi exhaust.

What a beauty... They look incredible in black too.

NYG · 03-29-2022, 01:33 PM

Some good stuff right here.

Bubbles · 03-29-2022, 02:27 PM

Russell hanging out by pit lane with the engineers.

Russell: “Toto and Lewis are moody today, I couldn’t remain in the garage because of the whinging. You guys are lucky to work on the pit wall”

Engineers: “better get use to it”

Russell: “shut up...here he comes!”

Toto: “make room for me and Bono”

Toto: “Lewis won’t stop whinging about the car, so I had to leave the garage. You guys are lucky to work on the pit wall.”

Toto: “so...what were you guys talking about?”

Killed by Death · 03-29-2022, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by NYG

Some good stuff right here.

Very cool

NYG · 03-29-2022, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubbles

Russell hanging out by pit lane with the engineers.

Russell: “Toto and Lewis are moody today, I couldn’t remain in the garage because of the whinging. You guys are lucky to work on the pit wall”
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Engineers: “better get use to it”
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Russell: “shut up...here he comes!”
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Toto: “make room for me and Bono”
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Toto: “Lewis won’t stop whinging about the car, so I had to leave the garage. You guys are lucky to work on the pit wall.”
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Toto: “so...what were you guys talking about?”
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The timing of the red flag makes it funnier.

M3WC · 03-29-2022, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubbles

Ferrari

PU: impressive power unit, likely best in class at the moment. They ran detuned in Bahrain but in the final 10 laps in Saudi LeClerc switched the PU into the top two power modes to keep up with Max.

Side by side comparison of Charles and Lewis laps from Q3 quali in Bahrain showed the Ferrari using 300 rpm less on main straight. They were definitely not using their PU to full potential.

NYG · 03-29-2022, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by M3WC

Side by side comparison of Charles and Lewis laps from Q3 quali in Bahrain showed the Ferrari using 300 rpm less on main straight. They were definitely not using their PU to full potential.

Maybe it's to conserve fuel?

M3WC · 03-29-2022, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by NYG

Maybe it's to conserve fuel?

This was their fast laps in Q3, so they definitely are not in a fuel save mode. During race, who knows?

F87source · 03-29-2022, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubbles

Ferrari

PU: impressive power unit, likely best in class at the moment. They ran detuned in Bahrain but in the final 10 laps in Saudi LeClerc switched the PU into the top two power modes to keep up with Max.

Interestingly, Sainz experienced clipping during the race.

AERO:Aero improvement will bring massive top speed bump, likely to occur by Imola. Huge upside here.

Red Bull

PU: On par or slightly behind Ferrari. Battery deployment seems off at the moment for reliability and performance. Max had clipping during the race. Ferrari is well ahead in low and mid speed acceleration. They have a few months to improve here before the window closes.

AERO: Aero is top class at the moment and will continue to improve for mid and low speed.

BRAKES: Cooling remains a problem with high temps, Max suffered with this issue during the race.

Merc

PU: running in detuned mode until aero is sorted, Russell showed decent pace, see graph for a Max v Rus comparison. First sector Max had DRS. Merc has a decent PU that has yet to be run full beans due to handling issues.

AERO: Major work required here, suspension geometry must be improved.

Good data but Ferrari couldn't have changed power modes during the last 10 laps because engine modes are fixed at the start of qualifying.

Bubbles · 03-29-2022, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by F87source

Good data but Ferrari couldn't have changed power modes during the last 10 laps because engine modes are fixed at the start of qualifying.

Fair point on the ICE power mode (timing, spark), I was referencing battery power deployment(full battery drain), torque management and energy recovery. I’ll update my post to clarify.

M5Rick · 03-29-2022, 04:19 PM

[QUOTE=Bubbles;28741735]Russell hanging out by pit lane with the engineers.

[B]Russell: “Toto and Lewis are moody today, I couldn’t remain in the garage because of the whinging. You guys are lucky to work on the pit wall”
Attachment 2847049

Good 'ol Russ.

M5Rick · 03-29-2022, 04:45 PM

That 47 Haas of MS will have everything replaced except PU,tub and NSF suspension. Everything else is damaged inc rear wing which appeared ok. Will probably cost anything up to $1million.

///M Power-Belgium · 03-29-2022, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by M5Rick

That 47 Haas of MS will have everything replaced except PU,tub and NSF suspension. Everything else is damaged inc rear wing which appeared ok. Will probably cost anything up to $1million.

At Imola the RB18 will lose some weight . Actually minus +/- 10 KG ! (wont be cheap)
This will make the car in low-speed corners faster ...
Better handling and improve the brake power as well .

A. Newey in progress....

Let it come !

F87source · 03-29-2022, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

At Imola the RB18 will lose some weight . Actually minus +/- 10 KG ! (wont be cheap)
This will make the car in low-speed corners faster ...
Better handling and improve the brake power as well .

A. Newey in progress....

Let it come !

10 kg is a very good weight loss.

But I'm pretty sure mechanical and material engineers are responsible for that, Newey is about aero.

///M Power-Belgium · 03-29-2022, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by M5Rick

Of course my friend, the only thing I can offer him is some cycling safety advice and lessons

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///M Power-Belgium · 03-29-2022, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by F87source

10 kg is a very good weight loss.

But I'm pretty sure mechanical and material engineers are responsible for that, Newey is about aero.

The RB18 is currently too heavy ! Actually , the heaviest .
I heard about a lighter aero package as well...

Newey said : - 10KG = - 0.3 sec laptime is within the possibilities .

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Bubbles Brigadier General 2820 Rep 4,445 Posts Drives: Green Bastard Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bishop Bend iTrader: (3)	Red Bull v Ferrari v Merc Ferrari PU: impressive power unit, likely best in class at the moment. They ran detuned in Bahrain but in the final 10 laps in Saudi LeClerc switched the PU into the top two power deployment modes to keep up with Max. Interestingly, Sainz experienced clipping during the race. AERO:Aero improvement will bring massive top speed bump, likely to occur by Imola. Huge upside here. Red Bull PU: On par or slightly behind Ferrari. Battery deployment seems off at the moment for reliability and performance. Max had clipping during the race. Ferrari is well ahead in low and mid speed acceleration. They have a few months to improve here before the window closes. AERO: Aero is top class at the moment and will continue to improve for mid and low speed. BRAKES: Cooling remains a problem with high temps, Max suffered with this issue during the race. Merc PU: running in detuned mode until aero is sorted, Russell showed decent pace, see graph for a Max v Rus comparison. First sector Max had DRS. Merc has a decent PU that has yet to be run full beans due to handling issues. AERO: Major work required here, suspension geometry must be improved. Attached Images __________________ Last edited by Bubbles; 03-29-2022 at 04:02 PM..
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Bubbles Brigadier General 2820 Rep 4,445 Posts Drives: Green Bastard Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bishop Bend iTrader: (3)	Merc DTS clip Russell hanging out by pit lane with the engineers. Russell: “Toto and Lewis are moody today, I couldn’t remain in the garage because of the whinging. You guys are lucky to work on the pit wall” Engineers: “better get use to it” Russell: “shut up...here he comes!” Toto: “make room for me and Bono” Toto: “Lewis won’t stop whinging about the car, so I had to leave the garage. You guys are lucky to work on the pit wall.” Toto: “so...what were you guys talking about?” __________________
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M5Rick General 68130 Rep 21,965 Posts Drives: M5 F10 DCT Gunmetal Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: GB iTrader: (0)	[QUOTE=Bubbles;28741735]Russell hanging out by pit lane with the engineers. [B]Russell: “Toto and Lewis are moody today, I couldn’t remain in the garage because of the whinging. You guys are lucky to work on the pit wall” Attachment 2847049 Good 'ol Russ.
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M5Rick General 68130 Rep 21,965 Posts Drives: M5 F10 DCT Gunmetal Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: GB iTrader: (0)	That 47 Haas of MS will have everything replaced except PU,tub and NSF suspension. Everything else is damaged inc rear wing which appeared ok. Will probably cost anything up to $1million.
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