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01-11-2023, 11:25 AM | #134 |
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Oh yeah. I understand how some people can get lots ofuse out of a truck, but I still think MOST people who buy a truck don't actually need one most of the time. Goes back to what I or someone else said earlier, look at what happened to trucks/SUVs in 07-08 when oil prices skyrocketed.
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I get your comparison with "no one needs an M4 either," but at least they are engaging to drive and all that. I know it's not philosophically consistent, I just think spending $70k+ on a luxury truck "to do truck things, when you actually don't do truck things" is weird. That's all. Same reason I didn't buy a Camaro SS 1LE, because it's basically an OEM built track car and I knew I was unlikely to take a $55k+ car to the track any reasonable amount of times to justify it. |
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Not really, that's way more the ZL1 1LE spec, as far as not really DD-able and so on. The SS 1LE is simply the ZL1 chassis, tires, brakes and suspension with the SS engine, to put it simply. The only real difference is the slightly smaller rotors due to lighter weight and that it only came in manual for most of it's years. The great thing about it is it has the suspension and rubber backing it up for the engine, vs many OEM cars that come out with insufficient rubber and suspension.
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I didn't say it wasn't DD-able, more that it would be a waste to just DD it. Having tracked sport bikes and cars before, I'm not willing to put in the time/money for it anymore. |
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It absolutely is, even though there is a Camaro with more HP. Just like I'd say a C7 GS with Z07 package, purpose built track car, even though there is the C7 Z06. |
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Both the ZL1 and SS 1LE share the FE4 suspension. In other word, same. I'm just saying that while a Miata may be an "OEM built track car", the SS 1LE is not overly harsh or aggressive in any way, not compared to contemporary cars and it is in fact softer than many of those. It simply has the rubber to back up the power. Cars like the Mustang GT and LT1 with 255 width tires are a joke for the weight of these cars.
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All I said, was for me, buying an SS 1LE seemed like a waste because I wouldn't track it. I'm not sure why you've got on this tangent about refuting things I haven't said. |
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In my case, I own an older house and therefore constantly doing Lowes runs and going to the dump, have 2 big dogs, enjoy biking (road and mountain). Could I make this work at one point when I literally only had 2 door coupes? Sure. Was it a pain? Yes. There is nothing like being able to road trip or do any errands and know that your truck will take care of you. I wouldn't be surprised if I end up with another one again.
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I don't see the need for a big pickup in my case but I absolutely see the need for an SUV... more trunk space, higher ground clearance and just more space for passengers. You don't know the comfort until you own one.
I will soon be getting a 2nd fun car to replace my old M2... maybe a new M2/M3 or older Z06 vette that will just sit in the garage... who knows.
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no they dont...
no sedan comes close to the backseat comfort, trunk / utility space and ground clearance
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a 760 is a whopping 10 inches longer than an x7 lmao... and gets still less cargo space when the third row is folded... or well, u could instead take 7 people wu... the large sedan market in areas outside of asia is close to dead
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