BMW's Twin Turbo V8 problems

[M6Pilot]

i received this in email, but i have a 2015 and my service center is not in atlanta

BMW
YOUR BMW TOLD US:
IT'S TIME TO COME IN.
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Dear David:

Your 2014 M6 Gran Coupe has indicated that you need to schedule a service appointment for the following service(s):

• Engine oil
• Replace 12 volt battery according to SI B61 30 14

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[TrevorM3]

thanks for posting that^^


has the sb, so ill see if my car falls under the category.

[Phatcat]

Originally Posted by RPiM5

Good article I saw today on the N63.

Seems like we should heed the N63's problems as M5 owners as the battery and turbocharging systems operate the same way. I'm guessing M Division gave the M5 a larger capacity battery than the regular 5-Series due to the larger turbos and cooling systems on the M5 though.

In conclusion I think the take away here is that it is better to drive the car harder during Break-In and in general to charge the battery more.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cult...ns-bmw-n63-v8/

Thanks for posting.

My M6 is now at 3000 miles, like the X5M, I break it in hard and had no issues with oil consumption.

No battery issues so far with either car.

Will do the same for my M5 when it arrives.

[GarbageMan]

Confused about SIB 613014... I called my dealer, and my car was manufactured on 11/13 (within the specified production date for our engine on the bulletin), but the dealer says this bulletin in not for M cars. Someone is wrong; I want to know who...

[TrevorM3]

try another sa^, let us know what he says

[GarbageMan]

Originally Posted by TrevorM3

try another sa^, let us know what he says

You mean a another dealer, I suppose? This SA has been mine for awhile; he took this to the shop forman. How many with M5s have had the battery replaced as a result of the bulletin? Mine was manufactured 11/13...

[TrevorM3]

yea try another dealer.. or even maybe just try contacting another SA, some of them are clueless.

i'll try and pull a history on my car.

[GarbageMan]

Originally Posted by TrevorM3

yea try another dealer.. or even maybe just try contacting another SA, some of them are clueless.

i'll try and pull a history on my car.

I've done one better; I have called the Atlanta BMW dealership that sent this, and given them my VIN. They say there are no outstanding bulletins for my car. The only bulletin was the coolant line insulation, which I was among the first on the forum to have completed. I'm waiting on a call back from a service advisor from that dealer, as the person who checked was not one. I have also taken a screen shot of that message on the M6 Gran Coupe and sent it to my dealer and asked "what gives"? The cars are identical-mechanically. I'm waiting on a call from them as well. I will get to the bottom of this, on way or another...

[TrevorM3]

thanks for updating buddy! what exactly was the coolant line insulation about?

[GarbageMan]

Originally Posted by TrevorM3

thanks for updating buddy! what exactly was the coolant line insulation about?

The coolant lines that feed the turbos get very hot, such they they can spew coolant at the clamps with the expansion at the junction of rubber and metal lines. This point is just below and at the front of the plastic engine cover...

[GarbageMan]

Originally Posted by GarbageMan

I've done one better; I have called the Atlanta BMW dealership that sent this, and given them my VIN. They say there are no outstanding bulletins for my car. The only bulletin was the coolant line insulation, which I was among the first on the forum to have completed. I'm waiting on a call back from a service advisor from that dealer, as the person who checked was not one. I have also taken a screen shot of that message on the M6 Gran Coupe and sent it to my dealer and asked "what gives"? The cars are identical-mechanically. I'm waiting on a call from them as well. I will get to the bottom of this, on way or another...

My dealer is now telling me that my car has to "ask for it" in the way that the notification happened with the Gran Coupe above. Poppycock. Yesterday, I was told that this didn't apply to M cars. The story is migrating, and I'm getting pissed. My car won't ask for oil changes, as I do my own at three times the recommended rate, and reset the reminder each time. Saying that the car must ask me is B.S., and now I'm afraid that "that guy" is about to be unleashed... You know the one...the A Hole...

[TrevorM3]

interesting.

just curious, do you do the oil changes yourself?

[GarbageMan]

Originally Posted by TrevorM3

interesting.

just curious, do you do the oil changes yourself?

Most certainly. I am pretty over-the-top-anal-retentive; I send the oil samples into Blackstone every other change as well... You know the kind of people who need the labels on the beer bottles to all face forward in the fridge, but none of them touching each other lest they "clink" when I open the beer fridge?... That kind of anal-retentive...

[TrevorM3]

is resetting the oil light etc. hard? did you have access to a write up? or video?

[Dracon]

I'll pull the SIB tonight and post it. It'll help clear things up.

[Dracon]

Here's the SIB referenced.

M5/M6's with the S63 fall under this SIB, however the battery replacement is only to be carried out on every second oil change.

However, note that in respect to the M5/M6 these are new changes as of December 2015. (Everything with the little red NEW, means it was recently added to the bulletin). So all dealers probably don't know about it yet.

[TrevorM3]

what if you do your own oil change??

[Dracon]

Originally Posted by TrevorM3

what if you do your own oil change??

That's something to speak with your SA about.

My SA and techs are pretty good with customers doing their own extra maintenance and performing the appropriate SIBs when required.

[GarbageMan]

Originally Posted by TrevorM3

is resetting the oil light etc. hard? did you have access to a write up? or video?

Very easy. The process is done via resetting the tripometer without starting the car, (hitting the start button without foot on the brake). A menu pops up, and you roll through it.

[GarbageMan]

Originally Posted by Dracon

That's something to speak with your SA about.

My SA and techs are pretty good with customers doing their own extra maintenance and performing the appropriate SIBs when required.

I not only change mine at triple the recommended ratio, I send a sample each change to Blackstone for analysis. The dealer gives me absolutely no trouble.

[TrevorM3]

Originally Posted by GarbageMan

Very easy. The process is done via resetting the tripometer without starting the car, (hitting the start button without foot on the brake). A menu pops up, and you roll through it.

thanks good to know!

[greentrbo95gst]

Originally Posted by MCarsFan

Went in for my 15000 mile service. Battery replaced. Told me battery replaced as part of new policy.

I believe 2014 cars and up are part of the new policy by BMW NA and they replace the batteries on them.