Mercedes debuts the brand new 2018 E63 AMG!

[URBAN LEGEND]

M4 is better.

[brad850csi]

Originally Posted by Grayblack

It looks like they're running center locks on the wheels as well.

Just a cover, a piece of plastic that you need to unscrew first. It will be a 5x112 fitment.

[Mspired]

Take the badge off and this could easily be mistaken for the C63. Benz needs to put more effort into making each car more distinguishable from the next.

[gmfive]

Meh.

[Oliver Queen]

I really like it, might actually get it if chance is there

[F80R]

Originally Posted by URBAN LEGEND

M4 is better.

You really been that butt hurt by M4 ? Every post or comment you make you keep trolling m4 it's actually not funny anymore same joke you been posting for years .. ( and no I don't own M4 )

[TrevorM3]

Originally Posted by Mspired

Take the badge off and this could easily be mistaken for the C63. Benz needs to put more effort into making each car more distinguishable from the next.

lets be honest, some people would have a tough time telling my m5 from your 5 series... so let's not make a statement such as the one you just made.

[Mspired]

Originally Posted by TrevorM3

lets be honest, some people would have a tough time telling my m5 from your 5 series... so let's not make a statement such as the one you just made.

Lol
That's not even a great comparison. We both have F10s, just different versions. So they should look similar. The C, E and S aren't all from the same class.

[stealth.pilot]

Originally Posted by F80R

You really been that butt hurt by M4 ? Every post or comment you make you keep trolling m4 it's actually not funny anymore same joke you been posting for years .. ( and no I don't own M4 )

I don't see the issue. We all know the M4 is a highly overrated car. Font understand why you have F80 in your user name. Will be totally outdated as a user name in a few years.

[F80R]

Originally Posted by stealth.pilot

I don't see the issue. We all know the M4 is a highly overrated car. Font understand why you have F80 in your user name. Will be totally outdated as a user name in a few years.

That's something new .. and how M4 is overrated rated ??? Is it claimed 425hp and it dyno at 300?? Or it official 1/4mile is much slower then in real life ??? Or it doesn't handle as near as good as claimed ?? I'm not saying it's the best car in the world .. but it is as good as it's claimed .. ?

[RPiM5]

Originally Posted by stealth.pilot

I don't see the issue. We all know the M4 is a highly overrated car. Font understand why you have F80 in your user name. Will be totally outdated as a user name in a few years.

[RPiM5]

Originally Posted by F80R

That's something new .. and how M4 is overrated rated ??? Is it claimed 425hp and it dyno at 300?? Or it official 1/4mile is much slower then in real life ??? Or it doesn't handle as near as good as claimed ?? I'm not saying it's the best car in the world .. but it is as good as it's claimed .. ?

The M3 and M4 are both fine cars. Their direct competitor the Alfa Romeo Giulia on the other hand is a fantastic car and I feel I can say that without even having driven one.

[URBAN LEGEND]

Originally Posted by stealth.pilot

I don't see the issue. We all know the M4 is a highly overrated car. Font understand why you have F80 in your user name. Will be totally outdated as a user name in a few years.

I'll ignore his/her post. Not really worth the energy. I'm not sure he/she gets the situation.

Thanks for translating too. The grammar was horrible.

[M6-Coupe]

Originally Posted by Vic55

Outside of the advanced interior, I'm not jumping up and down just yet. The current AWD S iteration can perform close to these numbers and exceeds them with a tune and simple Benz mods.

I have had benzes with more hp and tq (tuned) and clearly I had issues with the MCT tranny which this car gets as well in a 9 speed variant. The delays in driver input and shift speeds are noticeable and many owners have voiced their thoughts on the Benz Boards. Of course I am spoiled having so many dual clutch cars and even my GTS which is a Benz is so much of a better car from a transmission standpoint.

My hope (and a prayer) is that Benz will tune the TCU to properly transmit driver input to the transmission. Because after owning 4 MCT's; I don't know if I could deal with that transmission vs even the likes of the ZF8 I have in my Bentley (had in RS7 and F Type R) let alone against how brilliant the DCT is in my Pcars, Lambo, GTS, Ferraris, Bimmers etc.

The structure of MCT does not allow it to be faster even with tune TCU. In fact the MCT is designed to handle higher torques while DCT is not able to handle too much torque (compare to MCT) but it's much faster... I test drove the C63s months ago and as you said it's noticeable slow compare to DCT...
Even ZF8 at higher RPM is faster than MCT...

[M6-Coupe]

Originally Posted by URBAN LEGEND

M4 is better.

BTW I am going to get one KING... for now
I am thinking about M4 or X6M ...

[M6-Coupe]

Originally Posted by F80R

You really been that butt hurt by M4 ? Every post or comment you make you keep trolling m4 it's actually not funny anymore same joke you been posting for years .. ( and no I don't own M4 )

Hey you forgot me.. I'm at the same page he is
BUT I love when I smoke M4 drivers with my stock M6 LOL

[Bimmer6]

I'm hurt I love King ......... don't piss off King because Mr. Purple will come out to defend(: Hey Stealth I'm in town next weekend are you going to C and O?

[ConsumerFanatics]

The interior looks nice but a little over the top, especially with the blue. Pass.

[Vic55]

Originally Posted by M6-Coupe

The structure of MCT does not allow it to be faster even with tune TCU. In fact the MCT is designed to handle higher torques while DCT is not able to handle too much torque (compare to MCT) but it's much faster... I test drove the C63s months ago and as you said it's noticeable slow compare to DCT...
Even ZF8 at higher RPM is faster than MCT...

I think you misunderstood my post- I understand the mechanics of the MCT are maxed but if Benz could modify their tcu to be more intuitive to the driver's input and car's rpm; it would drive better. I have extensive experience in many driving situations with the MCT. The paddle shifting is pathetic in response from input and the tranny is often in the wrong gear in D mode and requires multi down shifts. Conversely the TCU in the GTS holds the rpms much longer and makes the car much more driveable even in Auto/D mode. The throttle to shift transition is another issue (MCT) and this not just with turbo cars but N/A's too.

[mister2d]

Originally Posted by ConsumerFanatics

The interior looks nice but a little over the top, especially with the blue. Pass.

The color should be configurable as in most Mercs. At least in my '15 AMG it is configurable in the console. So nice! I want another.

[E90potentialbuyer]

Not a fan of MB's S,M,XL sizing of the same design. The design looks great in S class, and somehow looks good in ax class as well. I saw an E43 AMG and the proportions from B pillar back looked odd. Not digging this - really wanted to like the E63 but I can't get over the weird proportions.

I have been thinking more and more about pairing AMG GT with a G63 OR Jaguar F Pace when the M5 lease is over.

[RPiM5]

Originally Posted by E90potentialbuyer

Not a fan of MB's S,M,XL sizing of the same design. The design looks great in S class, and somehow looks good in ax class as well. I saw an E43 AMG and the proportions from B pillar back looked odd. Not digging this - really wanted to like the E63 but I can't get over the weird proportions.

I have been thinking more and more about pairing AMG GT with a G63 OR Jaguar F Pace when the M5 lease is over.

I saw a new E300 on the street the other week and even looking directly at it, my eyes kept telling me that it was a C-Class. I don't mind that Mercedes is making all their designs look similar it's just confusing to me when I actually see them on the street. I've even mistaken an S-Class for a C-Class before. But then again maybe Mercedes wants us to be confused.