Tuning Fxx series possible (BOSCH ECU) - Diesel & Petrol

Boss330 · 01-14-2015, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by dmk08

Pretty sure its when posts are deleted.

Good point, and I believe you could be correct... I took a look now, and saw that at least two posts has been deleted on page 14

AurélienFxx · 01-14-2015, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Boss330

US based tuner AMS Alpha also claiming a ECU flash tune on the F10 M5:

http://f10.m5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1078869

Yup ! Wonder how ?

Boss330 · 01-14-2015, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by AurélienFxx

Yup ! Wonder how ?

I have my suspicions...

My educated guess is BR Performance

It's quite funny to read a few pages back on this and other tuning threads and re-read all the claims about DME software flashes being vapourware and that this is not happening. And then we get one thread on the F10 M5 forum from a US based company, and now everyone is suddenly believers...

335iFFM · 01-15-2015, 06:20 AM

Seems like it's finally cracked.

It's a know german tuner (not one of best, but known

) and he writes on FB:

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Guys, finally!
Starting today we are able to flash the BMW M4 and a lot of other F-Series models directly via OBD.

Sounds good to me

. As far as I know (and I'm quite sure) he doesn't develop his own tunes so this should account for every tuner worldwide (or at least every german tuner :P)

Black Gold · 01-15-2015, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by 335iFFM

Seems like it's finally cracked.

It's a know german tuner (not one of best, but known

) and he writes on FB:

Sounds good to me

. As far as I know (and I'm quite sure) he doesn't develop his own tunes so this should account for every tuner worldwide (or at least every german tuner :P)

Sweet

That r8 tho

EndBosS · 01-15-2015, 06:55 AM

don't forget this OBD flash is just the 2nd step in the process

you still have to get the ecu out and unlock it first with ENET!

Funny to see tuners all over the world quoting: "after months of hard work and development... blablabla..."

rofl...

AurélienFxx · 01-15-2015, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by 335iFFM

Seems like it's finally cracked.

It's been cracked for months.

It's finally released to " everyone " . That's a big difference.

ASAP · 01-15-2015, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by EndBosS

don't forget this OBD flash is just the 2nd step in the process

you still have to get the ecu out and unlock it first with ENET!

Funny to see tuners all over the world quoting: "after months of hard work and development... blablabla..."

rofl...

That's actually not that bad as long as it only has to be done once.

RingMeister01 · 01-15-2015, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by EndBosS

don't forget this OBD flash is just the 2nd step in the process

you still have to get the ecu out and unlock it first with ENET!

Funny to see tuners all over the world quoting: "after months of hard work and development... blablabla..."

rofl...

So removal only once and updates, change, reflash can be done through OBD from that point on???

ASAP · 01-15-2015, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by RingMeister01

Quote:

Originally Posted by EndBosS

don't forget this OBD flash is just the 2nd step in the process

you still have to get the ecu out and unlock it first with ENET!

Funny to see tuners all over the world quoting: "after months of hard work and development... blablabla..."

rofl...

So removal only once and updates, change,s reflash can be done through OBD from that point on???

The 2nd question to ask is can the dealer tell any of it?

PeterPure · 01-15-2015, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by EndBosS

don't forget this OBD flash is just the 2nd step in the process

you still have to get the ecu out and unlock it first with ENET!

Funny to see tuners all over the world quoting: "after months of hard work and development... blablabla..."

rofl...

Can you guys do this over OBD as well now?

PeterPure · 01-15-2015, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Darkhold

Quote:

Originally Posted by EndBosS

don't forget this OBD flash is just the 2nd step in the process

you still have to get the ecu out and unlock it first with ENET!

Funny to see tuners all over the world quoting: "after months of hard work and development... blablabla..."

rofl...

Can you guys do this over OBD as well now?

I can confirm they can flash through obd as well now. My car will be in soon for further development

WickedC5 · 01-15-2015, 03:13 PM

Is the F30 335 ECU harder to crack then the F10 M5 ECU? Seems like it should be easy to crack them all after doing one, but then again, I'm not a tuner. AMS which is down the street from me can do a flash for the F10 M5 but they don't seem to have anything for us F30 N55 guys yet.

I'd love to have a ecu flash for my F30 335 and ditch the piggy back tune.

AurélienFxx · 01-16-2015, 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by WickedC5

Is the F30 335 ECU harder to crack then the F10 M5 ECU? Seems like it should be easy to crack them all after doing one, but then again, I'm not a tuner. AMS which is down the street from me can do a flash for the F10 M5 but they don't seem to have anything for us F30 N55 guys yet.

I'd love to have a ecu flash for my F30 335 and ditch the piggy back tune.

F30 N55 is ok for long time.
We did many and you can even see powergraph on BR-P website.

I think AMS is not offering it because AMS choose to work on specific plateforms and offer full package. But it's technically possible for them !

antonn · 01-17-2015, 07:43 AM

A relative also bought a F30 1600cc used out of warranty. We will send the ECU to BR Performance at Monday. From Greece to Belgium. They will remap it from 136 HP to performe 220 HP!

BR send us photo how we will remove the ECU outside of his house at Monday morning. I will show you pictures from all the things that we will do, so you must know what to do!

It is easy

antonn · 01-18-2015, 06:04 PM

We removed the ECU in my relative's car. It is a F30 316i saloon automatic 8 speed steptronic 1600cc 136 HP. Wish him luck! We send it to BR-Performance to get 220 HP
At first they told me that is important to not having the engine running when we remove the ECU or after removing it.
I closed the engine and all the electricity and then closed all the doors locking with my hands. Last the door of the driver closed with the key and not telecontrol. afterwards at the afternoon I opened the car with the key and opened the hood.

I removed the plastic cover (very easy only pulling up), first of course removing the tap of oil.

Here we see the ECU

antonn · 01-18-2015, 06:06 PM

I removed the The first two connectors by pushing their clips inside

Here are the clips:

The clips of the second connector, again push inside and remove at the same time the connector

The first out

The first connector to the left as we see it has the clip to the right and you push it up and it goes 1cm up, and then it is easy to get it out

antonn · 01-18-2015, 06:27 PM

The last three to the right as we see it, are easy you push the button and then pull the plastic to the left

All the connectors removed:

At last I remove the four big screws of the ECU with screwdriver T20

then we got the ecu in our hand
ready for the curier

Boss330 · 01-19-2015, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by antonn

The last three to the right as we see it, are easy you push the button and then pull the plastic to the left

All the connectors removed:

At last I remove the four big screws of the ECU with screwdriver T20

then we got the ecu in our hand
ready for the curier

I assume you also disconnected the battery before removing the ECU?

SakhirM4 · 01-19-2015, 12:29 AM

How does pictures of removing an ECU provide any proof of a flash tune for the Fxx?

Vectors2final · 01-19-2015, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by SakhirM4

How does pictures of removing an ECU provide any proof of a flash tune for the Fxx?

Since they aren't doing OBD flashes, the ECU has to be removed and flashed separately from the car.

SakhirM4 · 01-19-2015, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Vectors2final

Since they aren't doing OBD flashes, the ECU has to be removed and flashed separately from the car.

I understand that, but how does it prove that they are flashing it?

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antonn New Member 3 Rep 13 Posts Drives: BMW F30 316i Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Athens Hellas-Greece iTrader: (0)	We removed the ECU in my relative's car. It is a F30 316i saloon automatic 8 speed steptronic 1600cc 136 HP. Wish him luck! We send it to BR-Performance to get 220 HP At first they told me that is important to not having the engine running when we remove the ECU or after removing it. I closed the engine and all the electricity and then closed all the doors locking with my hands. Last the door of the driver closed with the key and not telecontrol. afterwards at the afternoon I opened the car with the key and opened the hood. I removed the plastic cover (very easy only pulling up), first of course removing the tap of oil. Here we see the ECU Last edited by antonn; 01-27-2015 at 11:35 AM..
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