Vic55 and I drove the F80 M3. Pulls like a French Choo Choo Train.

[RPiM5]

Originally Posted by Careful Driver

So what you are saying is, apart from the seats, M3 and M5 are pretty much on par in terms of comfort and luxury? If that were true, it would hurt the M5 sales a lot.

No I think they did a fantastic job with this generations M3 comfort level, with the exception of the long term comfort-ability of the seats. The luxury aspect is definitely not on the same level or even close. It's all about the little things between the two cars in terms of luxury. What turns me away from the M3 and M4 is the lack of luxury feel and look to it, but it is very comfortable.

[David 12]

Sounds like a nice improvement over the previous generation m3 and thanks for the review.

One side note though: Coming from the Porsche family, I would say it would be prudent to test drive the new Cayman GTS if you are looking for a track oriented car (unless you need the rear seats)!

I know this is a m3 - m5 comparison, but thought I would throw in another consideration.

Dave

[RPiM5]

Originally Posted by David 12

Sounds like a nice improvement over the previous generation m3 and thanks for the review.

One side note though: Coming from the Porsche family, I would say it would be prudent to test drive the new Cayman GTS if you are looking for a track oriented car (unless you need the rear seats)!

I know this is a m3 - m5 comparison, but thought I would throw in another consideration.

Dave

Yes Cayman GTS is on the list. I'm dying to test drive that car one day, but I was ultimately hoping to just go down to one car that can do it all. The M3/M4 seem to lack the luxury I want, M5 and M6 lack the lightweight and size that I want, and I'm afraid Porsches lack the utility and convenience that I want. May just be waiting until the next generation M5 comes out that will be 400lbs lighter but I just hope that they don't make the 5-Series any bigger, that's a deal breaker for me as I have no family to haul around, but love having back seats and big trunk for when I want/need them.

[boots]

Like I told you in your text D.

That new m3 is kwell but that damn Rpi! Dat damn Rpi!!!!!!!

[RPiM5]

Originally Posted by boots

Like I told you in your text D.

That new m3 is kwell but that damn Rpi! Dat damn Rpi!!!!!!!

I wonder what Pkilla would think of the RPi??!

[boots]

He would say its a beast of an exhaust.

[JoM3z]

I initially had ordered the F80 M3, but since we are expecting a little one I decided to go with comfort and luxury. Not to sacrifice the sportiness and your casual need for speed, I believe the M5 filled that void. Having owned the last 2 generation of M3s, I can honestly say, you get spoiled driving the M5.

[(H)]

Originally Posted by RPiM5

Lol! Then again my M5 is modded to over 700hp at the moment.

Whaaaat?? Can you give me specs? What did you do? Me want, me want!!!

[boots]

Thousands of lil baby feet is what gave him the horse powa. Damn! I should have the same hp since we run the same equipment. Oh yea!

[RPiM5]

Originally Posted by boots

Thousands of lil baby feet is what gave him the horse powa. Damn! I should have the same hp since we run the same equipment. Oh yea!

Resonators FTL though brotha.

He he he!

[SOM3]

Who's god awful baby blue M5 was that in the pics?

Excellent review minus that ebonics shit I could barely understand.

[Dionysus]

Great review (and much as suspected, apart from the steering) - I would have expected an M3 launch car in a more existing colour to highlight that aggressive body kit. Mika makes that M3 look dreary.

[Day Laborer]

Just test drove it at lunch time.

I'm very impressed comparing it to my E92 M3; the price is outrageous though.



I certainly won't trade in my M5 for it, even if my M5 is slower/heavier.

I cannot compare the two as they are very different animals.

As terms of comfort in suspension being anywhere equal , I believe RPi is dead wrong; probably because his car is lowered.

I immediately noticed the stiff suspension, lower center of gravity, road noise, and road vibrations.

The engine/exhaust noise is actually very impressive and the acceleration is wonderful!

The suspension does feel a bit more aggressive than my non-ZCP E92 M3, but it may have been due to how I am already acclimated to my daily driver E92.

I am tempted to trade my E92 M3 + for this, but realistically, I feel a little short changed in the lack of RPMs when driving a sporty car like this (regardless of more power)

2nd-3rd gear on DCT will knock you back in your seat very much like how an E60 M5 SMG would. I wish my 6MT would feel that great.

[M5essex]

I'd have 'Mica' over the M3 any day...

[M6-Coupe]

another write up .... comparing M4 to M6
http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1000158

[Vic55]

Originally Posted by M6-Coupe

another write up .... comparing M4 to M6
http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1000158

He is living a placebo dream LOL.

[RPiM5]

Originally Posted by M6-Coupe

another write up .... comparing M4 to M6
http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1000158

Yeah I saw that. I'm trying not to start a forum war over on the other side or anything, but I think that guy is experiencing a euphoric effect of getting the latest and greatest thing. Or as Vic stated, a "Placebo Dream." Saying that the M4 is faster than than his old M6? Right. I drove the new F8x myself, yes it it FEELS FAST, absolutely, and even SOUNDS faster from the INSIDE of the car more than an M6, no doubt, but actually faster? Nope. The M6 has a completely different dimension of luxury to it. The M6 may feel softer than the M4, because it is softer, it was designed that way, to be a luxurious GT and not just a GTR-killer. The M4 does in fact feel a lot more sportier, but saying that it's faster than the M6, is nonsense to me.

Anyways I'm not the kind of guy to start sh*t up on the forums so I'm just biting my tongue for now.

I will say this though, my biggest likes for the new M3 and M4 is that it does FEEL a lot more sportier than the M5 and M6, especially when it comes to the interior sound of the engine and exhaust, but could never trade down for one because it FEELS to me like I'm driving a cheaper car overall. I'm not talking about the lack of a Bang & Olufsen sound system or soft close doors here, I'm talking about the quality of the basic materials inside of the M3/M4, such as the stereo volume control knob, the digital display of the temperature controls, the low resolution of the instrument cluster, the headliner, the headlight control switch, the rear view mirror, the size of the iDrive screen, etc, etc all made me feel like I was sitting in a much cheaper car, which I in fact was. For me personally, I guess I'm just too spoiled by the higher quality materials and design of the M5 and M6, which is what always turned me on to those cars in the first place and why I have never considered an M3 before this generation's F8x.

In another 5-6 years we'll have an M5 all carbon fiber'd out from the factory,under 4,000lbs and it will FEEL much better when driving it on the racetrack anyways. Lol!

[M6-Coupe]

Originally Posted by Vic55

He is living a placebo dream LOL.

Vic no offence to those people but I'm wondering how they dare comparing M4 to M6???? completely different cars!!!!! I mean M3/M4 may be the best M car for track since they are light and small compare to M5/M6 but as Dave are always referring to, the luxurious, the power, the beauty ,.... HUGE difference

[M6-Coupe]

Originally Posted by RPiM5

Yeah I saw that. I'm trying not to start a forum war over on the other side or anything, but I think that guy is experiencing a euphoric effect of getting the latest and greatest thing. Or as Vic stated, a "Placebo Dream." Saying that the M4 is faster than than his old M6? Right. I drove the new F8x myself, yes it it FEELS FAST, absolutely, and even SOUNDS faster from the INSIDE of the car more than an M6, no doubt, but actually faster? Nope. The M6 has a completely different dimension of luxury to it. The M6 may feel softer than the M4, because it is softer, it was designed that way, to be a luxurious GT and not just a GTR-killer. The M4 does in fact feel a lot more sportier, but saying that it's faster than the M6, is nonsense to me.

Anyways I'm not the kind of guy to start sh*t up on the forums so I'm just biting my tongue for now.

I will say this though, my biggest likes for the new M3 and M4 is that it does FEEL a lot more sportier than the M5 and M6, especially when it comes to the interior sound of the engine and exhaust, but could never trade down for one because it FEELS to me like I'm driving a cheaper car overall. I'm not talking about the lack of a Bang & Olufsen sound system or soft close doors here, I'm talking about the quality of the basic materials inside of the M3/M4, such as the stereo volume control knob, the digital display of the temperature controls, the low resolution of the instrument cluster, the headliner, the headlight control switch, the rear view mirror, the size of the iDrive screen, etc, etc all made me feel like I was sitting in a much cheaper car, which I in fact was. For me personally, I guess I'm just too spoiled by the higher quality materials and design of the M5 and M6, which is what always turned me on to those cars in the first place and why I have never considered an M3 before this generation's F8x.

well said sir

[Mbdurham17]

I was reading another post on an M4 where the new owner compared the exhaust sound to Ferrari.... I quit reading after that

[M6-Coupe]

Originally Posted by Mbdurham17

I was reading another post on an M4 where the new owner compared the exhaust sound to Ferrari.... I quit reading after that

Yeah I read that.... people asked him about which Ferrari... I think he was talking about the one in his XBOX

[soooma]

BMW M3 F80 2014 VS BMW M5 F10 acceleration 0-240 …:

Hope this shows how fast the F80/F82 M3/M4 really are even way above 100 miles those little sisters still pull hard