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      11-22-2019, 05:53 PM   #67
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The shell is on the outside per the website. I thought it needed to have crumple zones to absorb energy during a collision so energy is not transferred to the occupants. Will have to see if this passes NHTSA safety crash testing or IIHS.
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The shell is on the outside per the website. I thought it needed to have crumple zones to absorb energy during a collision so energy is not transferred to the occupants. Will have to see if this passes NHTSA safety crash testing or IIHS.
I think the shell was designed in mind due to ICE cars keying Tesla's. Now at least you won't see the damage now
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The shell is on the outside per the website. I thought it needed to have crumple zones to absorb energy during a collision so energy is not transferred to the occupants. Will have to see if this passes NHTSA safety crash testing or IIHS.
I think the shell was designed in mind due to ICE cars keying Tesla's. Now at least you won't see the damage now
The other thing is the charging port still in the back looking like a fuel door. They should have figured out by now to put it in the front so you can park head in at super chargers. Every other EV has it in the front. Especially if you're towing you don't have to remove the trailer to charge.
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The shell is on the outside per the website. I thought it needed to have crumple zones to absorb energy during a collision so energy is not transferred to the occupants. Will have to see if this passes NHTSA safety crash testing or IIHS.
I think the shell was designed in mind due to ICE cars keying Tesla's. Now at least you won't see the damage now
The other thing is the charging port still in the back looking like a fuel door. They should have figured out by now to put it in the front so you can park head in at super chargers. Every other EV has it in the front. Especially if you're towing you don't have to remove the trailer to charge.
Well production probably won't start till 20Forever so many be changes will be made prior to production because I thought the same thing.
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The shell is on the outside per the website. I thought it needed to have crumple zones to absorb energy during a collision so energy is not transferred to the occupants. Will have to see if this passes NHTSA safety crash testing or IIHS.
I think the shell was designed in mind due to ICE cars keying Tesla's. Now at least you won't see the damage now
The other thing is the charging port still in the back looking like a fuel door. They should have figured out by now to put it in the front so you can park head in at super chargers. Every other EV has it in the front. Especially if you're towing you don't have to remove the trailer to charge.
Seems like the newer Superchargers have switched from the old ones at the end of a spot, to the pull through design, making that less of an issue.

[IMG]https://www.designnews.com/sites/def...ercharging.jpg[/IMG]
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The shell is on the outside per the website. I thought it needed to have crumple zones to absorb energy during a collision so energy is not transferred to the occupants. Will have to see if this passes NHTSA safety crash testing or IIHS.
I think the shell was designed in mind due to ICE cars keying Tesla's. Now at least you won't see the damage now
The other thing is the charging port still in the back looking like a fuel door. They should have figured out by now to put it in the front so you can park head in at super chargers. Every other EV has it in the front. Especially if you're towing you don't have to remove the trailer to charge.
Seems like the newer Superchargers have switched from the old ones at the end of a spot, to the pull through design, making that less of an issue.

[IMG]https://www.designnews.com/sites/def...ercharging.jpg[/IMG]
Looks like this one has solar panels and shelter for charging in the rain. The front stall would still require you the unhitch the trailer though. You need quite a lot of real estate for this to charge lots of cars so it might not work for some sites. I was thinking Tesla should put solar on the roof of the truck which some pics seem to show this on the bed cover. Maybe they could make a trailer with solar on top and a battery as well as regen braking and motors in the wheels for extended range when towing. Would not be cheap but the base price of the truck is reasonable so their might be folks willing to buy the trailer.
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Would be great to buy one, only to really really beat on it. Tow horse trailers with it, fifth wheels, strap a snow plow on the front, lift it and put 37s on it on 22" wheels.

It's got to be the dumbest, ugliest f'in vehicle I have ever seen. But people will buy it, because in this day and age, the dumber something is, the better it seems.
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I think it'll do well based on the nostalgia factor alone.

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Looks like this one has solar panels and shelter for charging in the rain. The front stall would still require you the unhitch the trailer though. You need quite a lot of real estate for this to charge lots of cars so it might not work for some sites. I was thinking Tesla should put solar on the roof of the truck which some pics seem to show this on the bed cover. Maybe they could make a trailer with solar on top and a battery as well as regen braking and motors in the wheels for extended range when towing. Would not be cheap but the base price of the truck is reasonable so their might be folks willing to buy the trailer.
Or you could just... I dunno... buy a regular truck. Drive it wherever you want, fill it in 5min at any of the millions of gas stations all over the country.
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I knew it reminded me of something...

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it looks like you ll get an accidental cut by touching the car in a carpark..
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Would be great to buy one, only to really really beat on it. Tow horse trailers with it, fifth wheels, strap a snow plow on the front, lift it and put 37s on it on 22" wheels.

It's got to be the dumbest, ugliest f'in vehicle I have ever seen. But people will buy it, because in this day and age, the dumber something is, the better it seems.
Definitely one of the ugliest things I have ever seen, looks like it came form the 70s/80s.

It is actually more like the flashier/uglier something is, the more people want it nowadays.
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it looks like you ll get an accidental cut by touching the car in a carpark..
Question. This thing is probably gonna way a ton, and has some more durable/strong materials. Will this be more damaging to another car in a crash because of this?

That's all I could think of after reading this post
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I'm not sure the mainstream media joking about the bullet proof glass breaking has ever seen how ballistic glass works. It's never inch thick synthetic diamond or whatever they expected that doesn't even scratch. It's multilayer material designed to absorb and distribute the energy and prevent the round from going all the way through.

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So this is the pricing winner compared to the Rivian pickup which starts at $69K and has a $1000 deposit. The Tesla top model costs $69K with more range and faster acceleration than the top model Rivian which likely costs six figures. Also Tesla has $100 deposit. They are trying to kill Rivian on price so Rivian will have to get more investment $$ to lower their price and operate at a loss for several years to keep up. Faraday Future and Lucid Motors might as well file for bankruptcy.
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Question. This thing is probably gonna way a ton, and has some more durable/strong materials. Will this be more damaging to another car in a crash because of this?

That's all I could think of after reading this post
thought the same before posting but for pedestrians.. i guess they thought about it since the front end is a bit circular.. actually they have to cause its the law..
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Question. This thing is probably gonna way a ton, and has some more durable/strong materials. Will this be more damaging to another car in a crash because of this?

That's all I could think of after reading this post
thought the same before posting but for pedestrians.. i guess they thought about it since the front end is a bit circular.. actually they have to cause its the law..
Also, no crumple zones if you hit a tree or semi tractor trailer so all impact force is transferred to the occupants. But on the plus side, it's cheaper than a model X and just as fast with more interior space and cargo capacity, towing and range. Cost about the same as Model Y actually. Being an early adopter doesn't pay as those will likely be discounted. This thing will smoke a six figure 911 lol for half the price.
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I love my M3 and will be keeping it, but I ordered one of these. It's a very utilitarian vehicle that's fast as shit, can go off-road, may have the ability to regenerate 30-45 miles a day with a solar setup (Elon tweeted this as a possibility), and I can drive my Ducati up the back of it. Yeah the design is polarizing, but given it's not body on frame, it's an exoskeleton, it was necessary from an engineering perspective for rigidity.

I applaud Tesla for being creative and pushing accepted norms outside of (clearly) most people's comfort zone.

Safety is a valid concern and I'm curious how the testing goes by NHTSA.
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As if the masses have spoken. Reportedly Elon lost $770 Million after this debut


https://www.forbes.com/sites/hayleyc...th-cybertruck/
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Question. This thing is probably gonna way a ton, and has some more durable/strong materials. Will this be more damaging to another car in a crash
So basically like any modern brodozer.

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As if the masses have spoken. Reportedly Elon lost $770 Million after this debut


https://www.forbes.com/sites/hayleyc...th-cybertruck/
Well whoever tossed that ball the window will be looking for a new job shortly.

The $100 deposit is a smart move to illicit investor funding by showing the quantity of orders. Tesla live and breath on investments as they barely post profits since inception.
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