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      10-06-2019, 05:20 AM   #1
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In the market for an F10 M5

Hi all,

Moving from a 335d xdrive I’m now in the market for an M5 f10 and was hoping for some insight.

Firstly is getting a comp pack worth it over a regular, does it actually bring much benefit other than 15bhp or so.

When did the LCI happen?

What year model should be avoided, are 2012 ticking time bombs?

Any preventative maintance that needs to be done? Any common faults?

Any tips or advice would be much appreciated
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      10-06-2019, 05:24 AM   #2
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Oh any any optional extras that are pretty much must haves?
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      10-06-2019, 05:28 AM   #3
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And how can I tell if a car is an LCI?
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      10-06-2019, 07:04 AM   #4
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Hi all,

Moving from a 335d xdrive I'm now in the market for an M5 f10 and was hoping for some insight.

Firstly is getting a comp pack worth it over a regular, does it actually bring much benefit other than 15bhp or so.

When did the LCI happen?

What year model should be avoided, are 2012 ticking time bombs?

Any preventative maintance that needs to be done? Any common faults?

Any tips or advice would be much appreciated
2014 Competition Package M5 vs. 2014 M5 Base - layman's review https://f10.m5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=925933

This thread will pretty much sum it up and answer the CP vs Non CP questions. Also all CP's are 2014 or newer so that answers another question.
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      10-06-2019, 07:07 AM   #5
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Hi all,

Moving from a 335d xdrive I’m now in the market for an M5 f10 and was hoping for some insight.

Firstly is getting a comp pack worth it over a regular, does it actually bring much benefit other than 15bhp or so.

When did the LCI happen?

What year model should be avoided, are 2012 ticking time bombs?

Any preventative maintance that needs to be done? Any common faults?

Any tips or advice would be much appreciated
The LCI was in 2013 for what I believe was the 2014 model year? In the UK most 63 plate cars would be LCI. Most obvious sign internally is the larger iDrive controller with the touch pad. Not sure about other indications of the LCI.

Desirable / must have options:

HK Sound (or B&O but that’s pretty rare and was about £4K)
M Multifunction / comfort seats
Reverse camera (surround view isn’t a huge deal better)
Adaptive LED headlights
20” alloys (most CP cars have CP specific 20” alloys)

Try and buy approved used from a BMW dealer or buy the BMW warranty yourself.
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      10-06-2019, 11:59 AM   #6
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Hi all,

Moving from a 335d xdrive I’m now in the market for an M5 f10 and was hoping for some insight.

Firstly is getting a comp pack worth it over a regular, does it actually bring much benefit other than 15bhp or so.

When did the LCI happen?

What year model should be avoided, are 2012 ticking time bombs?

Any preventative maintance that needs to be done? Any common faults?

Any tips or advice would be much appreciated

What’s your budget?
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      10-06-2019, 12:38 PM   #7
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What’s your budget?

What could I get for 25k or so
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      10-06-2019, 01:01 PM   #8
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What could I get for 25k or so
Have a good luck on AutoTrader and Pistonheads but just be warned an M5 can very quickly empty your bank balance

These are £90k cars and not cheap to run

You need a decent warranty
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      10-06-2019, 02:28 PM   #9
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They are tipping 25k and less on the AUC site but be warned that just because a car is listed on the AUC website does NOT mean it is being sold as approved used with a AUC warranty! I've seen a couple of right old dogs go through that site.
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      10-06-2019, 02:48 PM   #10
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Have a good luck on AutoTrader and Pistonheads but just be warned an M5 can very quickly empty your bank balance

These are £90k cars and not cheap to run

You need a decent warranty

Could bump budget upto 30k. Assuming that would get me some sort of warranty too?
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They are tipping 25k and less on the AUC site but be warned that just because a car is listed on the AUC website does NOT mean it is being sold as approved used with a AUC warranty! I've seen a couple of right old dogs go through that site.

Thanks - guessing its best to avoid private sales and go with something with a warranty? Thinking of bumping budget upto 30k.

Initial plan was to spend 50 on a gtr but the M5 ticks far too many boxes to turn down
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      10-06-2019, 04:33 PM   #12
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Could bump budget upto 30k. Assuming that would get me some sort of warranty too?
Cars come with or without warranties it’s not a given that a car would have one no matter the price
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      10-07-2019, 03:49 AM   #13
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M5's come abused and non abused.Beware of ex leased cars which have been thrashed by impatient drivers when engine oil not up to required temp though you won't know this!
Private sales no problem with lower mileage and mature owners are reasonably safe,I bought mine private at 25k miles,fsh and have only had a a/c rad failure since Mar '17 which was covered by Bm warranty. I'd be wary of other cheaper warranties other than Bm which may not be worth the paper they're written on.
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      10-07-2019, 06:49 AM   #14
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Amen to the mondial (BMW) warranty. Anything else is false economics and may as well bank the cash for a rainy day.
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As has been said owning an M5 is a lottery, same as any M car. With M5s the costs are just higher.

I think a lot of people will see M5s as 'relatively cheap' but miss the fact that if they go wrong its potentially serious.
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      10-07-2019, 09:05 AM   #16
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Original Poster - what are you feeling now a Comp Pack Car or a standard? I have the standard. I feel like the standard 20inch rims look better THAN the multi spoke Comp Pack. But the Black exhaust tips, louder exhaust and lowered ride height definitely helps I recon.

Have you seen any M5s? You driven any?
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      10-08-2019, 08:51 AM   #17
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I’d second that you should get an extended drive in the car.

It’s an incredible machine to do what it does and it’s a used bargain but your 335 might be faster in the real world. There’s never really a moment when I floor it that I don’t get the nanny kicking in (and probably with good reason). I wouldn’t dream of trying anything on against a 4wd 335d. I suspect I’d look at a blinking yellow light while you sailed away.

Don’t get me wrong I appreciate it’s a different type of ownership experience, and acceleration after 40mph is ridiculous it but just check it’s the right flavour of M for you.
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I’d second that you should get an extended drive in the car.

It’s an incredible machine to do what it does and it’s a used bargain but your 335 might be faster in the real world. There’s never really a moment when I floor it that I don’t get the nanny kicking in (and probably with good reason). I wouldn’t dream of trying anything on against a 4wd 335d. I suspect I’d look at a blinking yellow light while you sailed away.

Don’t get me wrong I appreciate it’s a different type of ownership experience, and acceleration after 40mph is ridiculous it but just check it’s the right flavour of M for you.
You need to put it in MDM and get some Michelin Pilot 4s tyres, maybe from a standstill a 4wd would have an advantage but thats it, game over.

I dont think you know how to drive it properly
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You need to put it in MDM and get some Michelin Pilot 4s tyres, maybe from a standstill a 4wd would have an advantage but thats it, game over.

I dont think you know how to drive it properly
It is a learning curve. When I first got mine I hated it because I felt like everything would be faster. When I got the 305 Michelin PS4S it made is so much more usable. As mentioned here, MDM is a must. I had someone behind me at 40mph and forgot I had traction fully on, I floored it to show him who was boss and I just pulled like a 520d with the dsc light flashing, but it revved round smoothly making a lot of noise. Very painful experience.

Get the PS4s and get out there with MDM on, its usable from 30-40mph 80% of the time. Road surface dependant.
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      10-08-2019, 04:15 PM   #20
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Had a test drive of one. Absolutely unusable power in legal speed limits. Lovely motor, but sadly not one for me despite all the boxes it ticks.

Rs6 is next on the cards
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I dont think you know how to drive it properly
My insurance was rebooted this year at £256 fully comp 2 driver inc my commute. Someone clearly knows I know how to drive it properly. We all enjoy the car different ways, it doesn’t make us wrong.
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I’d second that you should get an extended drive in the car.

It’s an incredible machine to do what it does and it’s a used bargain but your 335 might be faster in the real world. There’s never really a moment when I floor it that I don’t get the nanny kicking in (and probably with good reason). I wouldn’t dream of trying anything on against a 4wd 335d. I suspect I’d look at a blinking yellow light while you sailed away.

Don’t get me wrong I appreciate it’s a different type of ownership experience, and acceleration after 40mph is ridiculous it but just check it’s the right flavour of M for you.
''335d might be faster'' your living in a dream world mate.
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