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WTB F10 need advice
I'm looking to buy an F10 and I was wondering what the major differences are between the 2013-2016s. Did BMW make any improvements from the factory that I should be aware of as they progressed through the F10? Any design flaws in the earlier F10s? Excited to be back in the F10 zone looking forward to buying modded F10 not abused well maintained. MT preferred (but rare).
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As far as I know there are no 6 speed manual RHD versions in the UK,the small amount made went abroad mainly to the US.If there are then its probably a handful on special order.
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How long does the clutch normally last?
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Too be honest I've only had my car for two months now, been a huge fan boy for years though, so I can't give my personal experience yet. But from what I've read the dual clutch holds up very well, people have had the car for 80000 miles and not had any slippage, but there are always those disaster cases... Usually what gets the clutch is when you tune the car to higher power outputs, in the range of 650-700whp, you can start to have it slip. But other than than it really is how you drive the car, if you beat on her the whole time you are liable to have premature wear.
When it comes to a true manual its much more on how you shift and I saw one guy say they were weaker clutches but I don't know really. Also I did look into differences on the EU5 vs EU6 injectors and it has to do with spray patterns and if you have a model originally made with EU5 you need to stick with it because misfires happen |
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I guess your from US,there is a Berkshire county in UK also.
Manual g/box clutches last a good time with normal use, when used as an M5 should then I'd say up to 60-70k without too much clutch spin on take off. If DCT twin clutches if adding a tune stage 2 or above then halve it, normally up to 100k,with st2 and above tune around 50k.A few forum members have swapped the DCT clutches out knowing they will slip with the extra torque of a tune. Not sure about a tuned 6MT though. |
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FYI, the engines components in prelci and lci f10 m5 are not identical.
-Prelci / Lci Wastegate: mechanic / electronic difference in tuning potential; and when you decat, mechanic wastegate on this motor can easily make notorious wastegate rattle DME: Bosch MEVD17.2.8 / Bosch MEVD17.2.H you get sports display in upgraded dme... lol Injectors: EU5 / EU6 personally there’s not much difference apart from emission control but there’s saying that EU5 injectors are more likely to be clogged |
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