Ass handed by a 991 Turbo (non S)

[Vic55]

Originally Posted by wisesoul

10s out the box and high 120s stock? That is insane!! Very good dilemma indeed, though I'm partial to the GT3.

Non S

[Dionysus]

Originally Posted by Vic55

Non S

Wow, that seems to get off the line PDQ!

[wisesoul]

Originally Posted by Vic55

Non S

Absolute animal

[Actor]

Originally Posted by Vic55

Non S

F**k!!!

[Tylerstar]

Perhaps downpipes, exhaust, and a tune should close the gap. I haven't encountered any new 991 turbos yet but it seems like they are a lot faster then the previous gen. Maybe starting in 2nd with him not getting the jump would have been closer? I raced a 997 Turbo vert from 2nd and pulled on him when I was stock. 3rd gear is a lot stronger since with the DP and exhaust. I wonder how much they are actually putting out at the crank. Because Porshe only seems to rate them at 520? I would suspect its underrated.

[TC M3]

Originally Posted by Vic55

To the OP the Champion Motorsport Non S 991 just ran 126 at 10.9 so the non s is no slouch. Pop a tune on the non S and its faster than the S and I have no doubt the tune will be coming soon to a shop near you.

All this turbo talk has me thinking- my dealer just offered me a free turbo build (no dep) for March delivery but I have my GT3 slated for June.

I love this dillemma

Get a Porsche! Im personally blown away with my Turbo! do it!

[ColdList]

Originally Posted by Vic55

To the OP the Champion Motorsport Non S 991 just ran 126 at 10.9 so the non s is no slouch. Pop a tune on the non S and its faster than the S and I have no doubt the tune will be coming soon to a shop near you.

All this turbo talk has me thinking- my dealer just offered me a free turbo build (no dep) for March delivery but I have my GT3 slated for June.

I love this dillemma

Yep. My local dealer offered me a deal on a canceled Turbo order too the day after I put the deposit on the GT3. I'm sticking. Thing is that the Turbo is just not as high demand as an S and if I want to move up later to a Turbo I will and at a better deal a year from now. Still though I think I would have to have the S. Those are just ridiculous!

[ColdList]

Originally Posted by Tylerstar

Perhaps downpipes, exhaust, and a tune should close the gap. I haven't encountered any new 991 turbos yet but it seems like they are a lot faster then the previous gen. Maybe starting in 2nd with him not getting the jump would have been closer? I raced a 997 Turbo vert from 2nd and pulled on him when I was stock. 3rd gear is a lot stronger since with the DP and exhaust. I wonder how much they are actually putting out at the crank. Because Porshe only seems to rate them at 520? I would suspect its underrated.

Yeah man. They are nuts. The M has no chance. I wouldn't line my M6 up next to one even with the DP. When buying my 991 a sales guy and I raced the M6 (before DP) against a regular C4S. Slow rolls and from a dig the P car wins. High speed rolls M car jumps 1.5 lengths but P car hangs. Now add a Turbo to the P car and it's not even close.

[ColdList]

Originally Posted by Actor

Selling your 911, I presume?

Yup. And the Cali.

[Actor]

Originally Posted by ColdList

Yup. And the Cali.

Jammy! So GT3 and what else?

[Bimmer6]

Ha you hated Porsche a few months ago(:

[Vic55]

Originally Posted by Bimmer6

Ha you hated Porsche a few months ago(:

LOL I remember those days/posts.

[Bimmer6]

Originally Posted by Vic55

LOL I remember those days/posts.

Yep he needed therapy, and now he's preaching the gospel!

[mvigod]

For those who either own or are looking at the 991 Turbo (w/Sport Chrono) or Turbo S I was wondering is the extra 25K worth it for the S? That is a chunk of change for what Porsche rates at just .1 seconds quicker and 40 extra HP. Also just 2mph difference in top end not that anyone really ever pulls the 195+ on the roads in these things all that often

[ColdList]

Originally Posted by Actor

Jammy! So GT3 and what else?

That's it. I bought the Cali to sell no matter what. We still have the M6 cab and the truck.

[ColdList]

Originally Posted by Bimmer6

Ha you hated Porsche a few months ago(:

Who me?

Originally Posted by Vic55

LOL I remember those days/posts.

I didn't write those.

Originally Posted by Bimmer6

Yep he needed therapy, and now he's preaching the gospel!

Halleluja my Darkside brothers!!

[ColdList]

Originally Posted by mvigod

not that anyone really ever pulls the 195+ on the roads in these things all that often

Except for Vic.

[mwlmd]

Originally Posted by mvigod

For those who either own or are looking at the 991 Turbo (w/Sport Chrono) or Turbo S I was wondering is the extra 25K worth it for the S? That is a chunk of change for what Porsche rates at just .1 seconds quicker and 40 extra HP. Also just 2mph difference in top end not that anyone really ever pulls the 195+ on the roads in these things all that often

I think the Turbo S package includes an lot of additional options as standard like CCB etc.

It is more than just a tune.

[TC M3]

Originally Posted by mwlmd

I think the Turbo S package includes an lot of additional options as standard like CCB etc.

It is more than just a tune.

YES !

[Vic55]

Originally Posted by mwlmd

I think the Turbo S package includes an lot of additional options as standard like CCB etc.

It is more than just a tune.

Its basically every add on option that the non S needs... PDCC, Sports Chrono, PCCB"S, 20 inch Turbo wheels, interior luxuries etc

But with that being said one can build and order a very nice non S for about 165k sans PCCB's (if they dont track) and then can be a few tics slower thru the speeds and one less letter on the rear deck. Its all relative to what one wants.

Here is a build of a very nice loaded non S that is about 30k lighter:

Pos.

MTYP/Option Text Retail Price

1

991430 911 Turbo 148,300.00

2

A1 Black 0.00

3

AZ Leather Interior in Black 0.00

4

342 Seat Heating (Front) 0.00

5

352 Porsche Dynamic Chassis Control (PDCC) 3,160.00

6

435 20-inch 911 Turbo S Wheels 3,835.00

7

509 Fire Extinguisher 140.00

8

529 SportDesign Side Mirrors 600.00

9

541 Seat Ventilation (Front) 840.00

10

583 Smoking Package 0.00

11

602 LED Headlights incl. Porsche Dynamic Light System Plus 2,340.00

12

638 ParkAssist (Front and Rear) incl. Reversing Camera 1,035.00

13

640 Sport Chrono Package 4,090.00

14

653 Sunroof in Glass 1,990.00

15

658 Power Steering Plus 270.00

16

P07 Adaptive Sport Seats Plus (18-way) with Memory Package 1,145.00

17

XSC Porsche Crest on Headrests 285.00

18

XUB Headlight Cleaning System Covers Painted in Exterior Color 295.00

Total Retail Vehicle Price

168,325.00

Destination Charge

995.00

Total of Charges & Taxes

995.00

Total Retail Price 169,320.00

[dhirm5]

Originally Posted by Vic55

Non S

So a stock 991TT does a 10.9 quarter??

JFC

[Vic55]

Originally Posted by dhirm5

So a stock 991TT does a 10.9 quarter??

JFC

Yes, the champion car did a week or so back--- 10.9 at 126 non S. Not all too shabby