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04-19-2013, 11:23 AM | #47 |
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I honestly think that if they were to make M5 competitive to current market, the new LCI M5 should match E63S's 0-60 time. (which I don't think possible with 20hp increase only. It should also have X-drive or lots of weight diet)
I find many (not all) people judge the car by the 0-60 numbers.. which I feel very disturbing. However, I think people want best in the same class if they were to buy 100k BMW or MB and etc.. p.s., I love the exhaust sound from the LCI tracking video! |
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04-19-2013, 11:41 AM | #48 |
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If the LCI M5 gets a power increase of 1 HP that will be more than the E9X series M3 got. We enthusiast need to really consider what "competition" means. Right now it means marketing and a large majority of us bite on it. Someone mentioned a "Weight Watchers" M5.....it would great if BMW offered a CSL in all M models. The fact is, the weight won't drop because they are constantly adding HP......food for thought gents.........Phil
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Also, I don't think current M5 owners should be worried since this is "package" and will cost more. The LCI will look very similar to current ones and to most of people, they will not be able to distinguish them. Also, wouldn't it better for us if M5 stays competitive in the market?
My MB dealer is trying to sell E63S by telling me "it is as fast as Ferarri F458 but in family sedan with 5 seats" |
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Added video of the M5 LCI with competition package on the Nurburgring:
http://f10.m5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=830391 Sounds great!
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04-19-2013, 12:27 PM | #53 | |
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I think the competition package is starting to stand for competing with MB, and not motorsport.
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04-19-2013, 12:51 PM | #54 | |
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This is unconventional for BMW. Releasing the LCI 5-Series/M5 a year early and now planning to unveil a competition package for the M5 when there's never been one before for any M5 generation, and 2 years too early compared to the E92/90 M3 timeline. The M3's had to wait 3 model years before a competition package was released. M5's have to wait 2 if you count the 2012 model year but only 1 for us U.S. customers. Makes me mad to think our 2013's are only a year old and are already outdated by large measures!
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I was waiting for this ^.................Phil
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Like everyone else, I think that this is simply a reaction to the E63S. But I don't think the take up rate will be huge. Most of us (including me) use the M as a DD. I have no interest or use for CCB. And I think our wheels are far better looking than the 7-spoke competition package wheels (if that is in fact what they are). I do think the LCI has some nice features compared to our MY13s, and I would like a better sounding OEM exhaust, but this competition package doesn't bother me much.
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anyone knows this comp pkg is standard or is it an option ? If it's an option, anyone care to guess how much as the ordering guide should really be out already, since the production is set to begin in just about 2.5 months time.
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Ya, I don't think I can argue that point.
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The tally will be at least $10,000. The article mentions a 5-digit price tag. Carbon ceramics are, what, $9,500 on the M6? I would hazard a guess of $12,000 since it comes with a sweet sport suspension. What are they suggesting, that the standard M5's suspension was designed for non-sporty driving?
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This makes me realize the reason why BMW made the residual values for the 2013 M5 so horrible last may when they opened the order bank. They must have already known that they were planning to do this back then.
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