Will EPA grab your car for testing?

visualguy · 07-10-2012, 11:48 AM

Does anyone know what cars will be used for EPA testing?

For people with July US-production dates, is there a risk of your car being sent to testing at the EPA since there are no fuel economy numbers? Some cars will need to go there, and the first cars arriving may all be customer special-order cars...

It seems like a particularly strong concern if you ordered manual transmission. There will be only very few of those for testing. Even an August production date may not be safe...

I'm trying to find some information about how this process works. I ordered a manual transmission M5, and I'm concerned that it may be the first or one of the first production cars to arrive at the US.

Anyone with a July production date for manual transmission?

cmhsam · 07-10-2012, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by visualguy

Does anyone know what cars will be used for EPA testing?

For people with July US-production dates, is there a risk of your car being sent to testing at the EPA since there are no fuel economy numbers? Some cars will need to go there, and the first cars arriving may all be customer special-order cars...

It seems like a particularly strong concern if you ordered manual transmission. There will be only very few of those for testing. Even an August production date may not be safe...

I'm trying to find some information about how this process works. I ordered a manual transmission M5, and I'm concerned that it may be the first or one of the first production cars to arrive at the US.

Anyone with a July production date for manual transmission?

I heard that they are going to be testing one of every color.

visualguy · 07-10-2012, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by cmhsam

I heard that they are going to be testing one of every color.

Just multiple cars of each type of transmission. I don't know the sample size.

stealth.pilot · 07-10-2012, 12:54 PM

I would think they would test some of the many cars BMW already has in the USA (press cars). Seems odd to test sold customer cars.

visualguy · 07-10-2012, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by stealth.pilot

I would think they would test some of the many cars BMW already has in the USA (press cars). Seems odd to test sold customer cars.

I believe those are 2012 model year, not 2013. The EPA needs 2013 cars for testing.

journeyguy · 07-10-2012, 01:45 PM

they better not test my car......or touch my car.

cmhsam · 07-10-2012, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by journeyguy

they better not test my car......or touch my car.

I believe they are targeting Columbus Ohio cars first

visualguy · 07-10-2012, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by cmhsam

I believe they are targeting Columbus Ohio cars first

The EPA is skipping ED cars because those take enough abuse from dogs and fibre optic probes at customs. At least the EPA will be satisfied after just a few cars...

whiteM5 · 07-10-2012, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by cmhsam

I believe they are targeting Columbus Ohio cars first

LOL

AGS · 07-11-2012, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by journeyguy

they better not test my car......or touch my car.

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Originally Posted by cmhsam

I believe they are targeting Columbus Ohio cars first

Gentlemen - I hope you and your families are safe in the wake of the train derailment near Columbus. Heard on the news they had a pretty large evacuation area. Stay safe.

PS - Sorry for the threadjack.

cmhsam · 07-11-2012, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by AGS

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Originally Posted by journeyguy

they better not test my car......or touch my car.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmhsam

I believe they are targeting Columbus Ohio cars first

Gentlemen - I hope you and your families are safe in the wake of the train derailment near Columbus. Heard on the news they had a pretty large evacuation area. Stay safe.

PS - Sorry for the threadjack.

AGS

Thank you. We were not affected. Hopefully journeyguy's M5 wasn't on that train

journeyguy · 07-11-2012, 08:02 AM

My M5 is nice & safe in my garage.

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Originally Posted by cmhsam

AGS

Thank you. We were not affected. Hopefully journeyguy's M5 wasn't on that train

cmhsam · 07-11-2012, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by journeyguy

My M5 is nice & safe in my garage.

Soon it will be right!

Tourbillon · 07-11-2012, 08:10 PM

Shame on BMW if they dare let the EPA joy ride/test on customers cars to determine if we need to pay a ridiculous "fine" for purchasing a vehicle they don't deem eco friendly. If I choose to drive a vehicle with lower MPG then so be it. They sure as hell aren't paying for my gas

Bmill · 07-11-2012, 09:30 PM

Did you guys see this posting from a different thread?

http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/how_tested.shtml/

cmhsam · 07-12-2012, 02:18 PM

Found this on another forum about the EPA Certification. It looks like the 2012 M5 was certified in California for emissions.

http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/onroad/...322_4d4_l2.pdf

Here is the link for the MY 2013 Cars.

http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/onroad/.../2013/2013.php

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