2018 M Test Drive

[RPiM5]

Originally Posted by 2016-M5

yes but you cant deny that buying a new car for 100k should bring the excitement of a newly designed engine, subsequent new exhaust sound and a new driving experience, this new M5 looks seemingly like a fecelifted F10 with 4wd, BUT with the added drawback of not being able to tune for quite sometime until new encryption worked out, AND when tuning does finally become available, it looks like it still has the same weak spot rods as the F10 as it's the same engine (as pointed out by all-motor)

Much better cars out there for when we all change, i wont be holding out for new M5

This guy gets it.

[RPiM5]

Originally Posted by Vic55

My post wasnt for the masses, it was towards RPIM5 (thus quoting his post and my sarcasm directed to him in the words: LIES)

My post was quoted directly to him for a reason... I agree that the car has a weak exhaust but Dave (who I quoted) has done extensive exhaust mods and vids to make himself smile at night. It was more of a tongue and cheek post for him.

Yeah I think he may have missed the sarcasm, but its all good. No harm no foul. And yes I still do smile at night when I go to bed knowing what kind of evil sound my M5 makes.

[Vic55]

Originally Posted by RPiM5

Yeah I think he may have missed the sarcasm, but its all good. No harm no foul. And yes I still do smile at night when I go to bed knowing what kind of evil sound my M5 makes.

I smile now that Ive replaced the M5 with something faster and better sounding.... care to guess? And I had the OEM Akra on my M5... (great car)

Oh it just got tuned and its fuckin stupid fast.

[RPiM5]

Originally Posted by Vic55

I smile now that Ive replaced the M5 with something faster and better sounding.... care to guess? And I had the OEM Akra on my M5... (great car)

Oh it just got tuned and its fuckin stupid fast.

Totally guessing here, but did you get the new Panamera Turbo?!?!?!

[stealth.pilot]

Originally Posted by RPiM5

Yes of course! Haha! I love the sound of the S63tu engine, when modified.

But even though I love the sound of this car, I can't justify spending over another $100 grand on another car with the exact same sound. The only exception would be if it had a V10 or V12, then it's not even an issue. If it were up to me all M5's would have V10's and V12's. Aston Martin is another good example, they essentially use V8's and V12's exclusively but it's all good because they are wonderful sounding engines and with each generation they manage to make them sound better even when they put turbos on them.

If you're holding out for a V10 or V12 M5 you're going to be waiting the rest of your life.

[RPiM5]

Originally Posted by stealth.pilot

If you're holding out for a V10 or V12 M5 you're going to be waiting the rest of your life.

Lol! I'm definitely not holding out. I would have been happy if they even put a 3.0L Quad Turbo 6 Cylinder engine in the new M5 because its new and different. Probably would sound good too. Ford threw that EcoBoost engine in the new Ford GT and it sounds awesome. Makes 647hp too! Lol!

[Blkthght]

Originally Posted by SFT33

If there was ever a reason to wait for the LCI or Comp Package - this is it. I bet we see a new transmission (like they did with the X5). I still don't get not having DSC active in RWD mode. Too risky IMHO.

This right here. Given what happened to the 2013 F10 owners--who watched an LCI comp pack better version of their 100K+ new car come out only year later--I'm gonna hold on to this F10 until the LCI ZCP version of the F90 drops.

[SFT33]

Originally Posted by Blkthght

This right here. Given what happened to the 2013 F10 owners--who watched an LCI comp pack better version of their 100K+ new car come out only year later--I'm gonna hold on to this F10 until the LCI ZCP version of the F90 drops.

Spot on. Early adopters get the shaft.

[stealth.pilot]

Originally Posted by RPiM5

Lol! I'm definitely not holding out. I would have been happy if they even put a 3.0L Quad Turbo 6 Cylinder engine in the new M5 because its new and different. Probably would sound good too. Ford threw that EcoBoost engine in the new Ford GT and it sounds awesome. Makes 647hp too! Lol!

It will be interesting if they made any changes to the engine at all. Hopefully at least they have new turbos.

While it is disappointing, you have to remember that it is probably the best twin turbo V8 on the market.

I like your thinking though. I wish they had done a 500hp quad Turbo inline 6 with a -200 hp hybrid drive with peak combines output of >650hp.

[RPiM5]

Originally Posted by SFT33

Spot on. Early adopters get the shaft.

Yep I learned my lesson too. 5 years later and I'm still pissed off about the Pre-LCI F10 M5's not having adjustable side bolsters! Lol!

[cjackson1906]

Originally Posted by Vic55

Alot of supposition and decisions over one video where not one person here has driven the car

We are all M5 owners or were at one point even with those "rear" calipers and Ill give the brand the benefit of the doubt and wait for a chance to actually drive it.

This ^^^.

[Blackpearl2007]

Originally Posted by Greer

I want it and will get it.

Me too!!!

[SFT33]

Aren't you guys ticked off about this? I'm steamed.

[bmwdinan5]

You guys keep mentioning some thing about rods. What do you mean by that?

[crazyhorse02]

Originally Posted by Vic55

Alot of supposition and decisions over one video where not one person here has driven the car

We are all M5 owners or were at one point even with those "rear" calipers and Ill give the brand the benefit of the doubt and wait for a chance to actually drive it.

All of the negative comments towards the car are probably misguided. This forum is filled with enthusiasts mostly, not just M5 drivers. When the V10 went away, many people were shocked. Then the F10 proved to be awesome with a completely new engine, DCT etc etc. The 2018 simply represents a dying brand, a dying M brand. No innovation, nothing new besides tech that most people here do not care about. AWD is nice, but I love the M5 being rwd. It gives the car character and engages thes driver more. None the less, I feel most people here just hate seeing the first M5 from BMW that is labeled an "M" car but was designed by cost savings and updated interior tech.

[SuckaGDog]

Originally Posted by TrevorM3

there isn't a way around this?


100k car with that caliper? again?? I' sorry, but that shit is a no go.

Originally Posted by RPiM5

I agree dude, I agree. Of course there is a way around it, but it's just what the M550i uses and M is too lazy put a real caliper on the back.

It is possible to have a fixed rear caliper with an electronic parking brake. Example: Ferrari F12. You will just have to have a separate mini caliper dedicated to parking brake. Ferrari incorporated into the main caliper so that's why it looks oddly shaped, but its there lol. Also Alfa did the same thing on the QV. Same for both CC and regular iron brakes on the QV.

///M just being cheap.

http://projectonethirty.com/wp-conte...7-1024x682.jpg

http://www.giuliaforums.com/forum/61...ear-wheel.html

[2016-M5]

Originally Posted by SFT33

Aren't you guys ticked off about this? I'm steamed.

And it seems much slower to change gear?

[boots]

Nice update but not special enough for me to buy another one.

[Bimmer6]

Looks like X-drive confirmed

[Bimmer6]

Sorry updated.

[TheHouseWon]

How much torque will XDrive handle after a tune??

[AlphaM]

So let me get this straight, they gave it more horse power, narrower rear tires, shittier tires (less sticky) but decided to make it rear wheel drive at a push of a button (with DSC off)???
Genius! give me a fking break will ya! lol!