Considering F10 M5

[schrickm5]

There is one 30 Jahre for sale in Sweden right now - its got about 75 miles on the clock. Yes 75 measly miles. Price is (converted from SEK) 83k GBP. LHD of course.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by schrickm5

There is one 30 Jahre for sale in Sweden right now - its got about 75 miles on the clock. Yes 75 measly miles. Price is (converted from SEK) 83k GBP. LHD of course.

That's what I mean but who will buy it..

[OneExtra]

Originally Posted by schrickm5

There is one 30 Jahre for sale in Sweden right now - its got about 75 miles on the clock. Yes 75 measly miles. Price is (converted from SEK) 83k GBP. LHD of course.

Bonkers really for a glorified F10 M5

[C320]

With just the registration number is there an easy way of checking if an advertised car actually has the Competition Package?

I've come across an interesting 2016 car advertised as being a Competition Package. However, it doesn't have the 601M alloys (which is something I really like from the CP), it has silver 20" 343M's instead.

Referring to a July 2016 brochure I'm not sure if that combination was something that could be ordered. I thought the only wheel choices on the M5 CP as the 601M or the 343M in Black.

Anyone able to shed any light on this? I'm thinking it may be a CP that has had the 343M wheels in Black subsequently refinished in Silver?

[OneExtra]

Originally Posted by C320

With just the registration number is there an easy way of checking if an advertised car actually has the Competition Package?

I've come across an interesting 2016 car advertised as being a Competition Package. However, it doesn't have the 601M alloys (which is something I really like from the CP), it has silver 20" 343M's instead.

Referring to a July 2016 brochure I'm not sure if that combination was something that could be ordered. I thought the only wheel choices on the M5 CP as the 601M or the 343M in Black.

Anyone able to shed any light on this? I'm thinking it may be a CP that has had the 343M wheels in Black subsequently refinished in Silver?

Ideally you need the VIN

They are also lower they did come with black alloys as you say

Do you have a link to the car?

[C320]

Originally Posted by OneExtra

Do you have a link to the car?

It’s this one: https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201902144913767

Poor advert in many ways, and not being sold by BMW, although they have shown honest images with some bodywork damage. Most likely traded against a Range Rover!

Not shown in the description but looks to have LED headlights and the M Multifunction seats. Like the colour too, thinks it’s Tansanite Blue?

I’m out of the country right now so reluctant to do much at the moment. If it was a BMW AUC I’d be more comfortable leaving a deposit.

Negatives:

Missing 601M alloys, really like the look of those CP wheels!

Bodywork - although I’d be keen to push to take as seen without any of the bodywork issues rectified

Non BMW AUC, I’d also negotiate to remove their warranty (I’d renew this myself directly with BMW, as its a May 2016 car).

Possibly due service imminently? Pictures only show what looks like the running in service, other service may have have been done since?

Fitted with Yokohama tyres (don’t think these were ever standard, so probably not the best choice of tyre, perhaps an indication that it wasn’t owned by an enthusiast???)

[OneExtra]

Originally Posted by C320

It’s this one: https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classif...01902144913767

Poor advert in many ways, and not being sold by BMW, although they have shown honest images with some bodywork damage. Most likely traded against a Range Rover!

Not shown in the description but looks to have LED headlights and the M Multifunction seats. Like the colour too, thinks it’s Tansanite Blue?

I’m out of the country right now so reluctant to do much at the moment. If it was a BMW AUC I’d be more comfortable leaving a deposit.

Negatives:

Missing 601M alloys, really like the look of those CP wheels!

Bodywork - although I’d be keen to push to take as seen without any of the bodywork issues rectified

Non BMW AUC, I’d also negotiate to remove their warranty (I’d renew this myself directly with BMW, as its a May 2016 car).

Possibly due service imminently? Pictures only show what looks like the running in service, other service may have have been done since?

Fitted with Yokohama tyres (don’t think these were ever standard, so probably not the best choice of tyre, perhaps an indication that it wasn’t owned by an enthusiast???)

I have called them as if I was interested and they are calling me back, I will ask for the VIN but looking at the ride height compared to mine it doesn't look like it has a comp pack, I could be wrong though.

Will give you a shout when I hear back

[OneExtra]

https://www.mdecoder.com/decode/g250754

Yes it has a Competition Pack

[C320]

Originally Posted by OneExtra

I have called them as if I was interested and they are calling me back, I will ask for the VIN but looking at the ride height compared to mine it doesn't look like it has a comp pack, I could be wrong though.

Will give you a shout when I hear back

Awesome, many thanks for doing that.
Keen to hear what you find out about it.

Much appreciated!

[C320]

Originally Posted by OneExtra

https://www.mdecoder.com/decode/g250754

Yes it has a Competition Pack

That's great & many thanks for checking it out so quickly.

Certainly looks interesting and it appears that those Silver 343M's were factory fit too (the black ones have a code of 2TY) - re-read the PDF of the price list I had and yes you could get a CP model with either silver or black 343M's

Mileage is a little higher than I was expecting but Imperial blue with Silverstone is a great colour combination. One to sleep on...

[nickd911]

Looks nice, but not well looked after.

Would be concerned by the tyre choice quite a few bodywork marks and no surround camera which IMO is a must (2nd button to left of gearstick) and I'm guessing its not had a service in 2 years?

[M5Rick]

I've seen it and looks as if the owner was parking it anywhere, not an option with these and yes possibly missing an oil change not wise.

[schrickm5]

Mine is a CP, I have the black 343’s, I have a tow hook that folds away! Like I’m ever going to use it.
Standard equipment
Parameter Value
S1CCA Auto start/stop function (AUTO START STOP FUNKTION)
S1CDA Brake Energy Regeneration (BRAKE ENERGY REGENERATION)
S2MKA M twin-clutch transm. with Drivelogic (M DOPPELKUPPL. GETR. M. DRIVELOGIC)
S223A Electronic Damper Control (EDC) (ADAPTIVES FAHRWERK)
S302A Alarm system (ALARMANLAGE)
S4L9A Interior trim strips, Alu Trace (INTERIEURLEISTEN ALUMINIUM TRACE)
S4URA Ambient interior light (AMBIENTES LICHT)
S423A Floor mats velours (FUSSMATTEN IN VELOURS)
S494A Seat heating driver/passenger (SITZHEIZUNG FUER FAHRER/BEIFAHRER)
S502A Headlight cleaning system (SCHEINWERFER-WASCHANLAGE)
S548A Kilometre speedo (KILOMETERTACHO)
S760A High gloss shadow line (INDIVIDUAL HOCHGLANZ SHADOW LINE)
S775A Headlining anthracite (INDIVIDUAL DACHHIMMEL ANTHRAZIT)

Custom options
Parameter Value
S1CAA Selection of COP-relevant vehicles (SELEKTION COP RELEVANTER FAHRZEUGE)
S2PAA Locking wheel bolt (RADSCHRAUBENSICHERUNG)
S2TYA BMW LA wheel, M double spoke 343 (20"M LM RAED. DOPPELSP. 343 M /MB,)
S245A Steering wheel column adjustment,electr. (LENKSAEULENVERSTELLUNG ELEKTRISCH)
S248A Steering wheel heater (LENKRADHEIZUNG)
S3ACA Trailer coupling (ANHAENGERKUPPLUNG)
S3AGA Reversing camera (RUECKFAHRKAMERA)
S316A automatic trunk lid mechanism (AUTOMATISCHE HECKKLAPPENBETAETIGUNG)
S322A Comfort access (KOMFORTZUGANG)
S4MAA M multifunction seat (M MULTIFUNKTIONSSITZ FA./BEIFAHRER)
S4NBA Autom. climate control with 4-zone ctrl (KLIMAAUTOMATIK MIT 4-ZONENREGELUNG)
S403A Glass roof, electrical (GLASDACH, ELEKTRISCH)
S428A Warning triangle and first aid kit (WARNDREIECK)
S430A Interior/outside mirror with auto dip (INNEN- UND AUSSENSPIEGELPAKET)
S431A Interior mirror with automatic-dip (INNENSPIEGEL,AUTOMATISCH ABBLENDEND)
S465A Through-loading system (DURCHLADESYSTEM)
S488A Lumbar support, driver and passenger (LORDOSENSTUETZE FAHRER/BEIFAHRER)
S496A Seat heating, rear (SITZHEIZUNG FUER FONDSITZE)
S5ACA High-beam assistant (FERNLICHTASSISTENT)
S5AGA Lane change warning (SPURWECHSELWARNUNG)
S5ALA Active Protection (ACTIVE PROTECTION)
S5DLA Surround View (SURROUND VIEW)
S508A Park Distance Control (PDC) (PARK DISTANCE CONTROL (PDC))
S552A Adaptive LED headlight (ADAPTIVER LED-SCHEINWERFER)
S6ACA Intelligent emergency call (INTELLIGENTER NOTRUF)
S6AEA Teleservices (TELESERVICES)
S6AKA Connected Drive Services (CONNECTEDDRIVE SERVICES)
S6APA Remote Services (REMOTE SERVICES)
S6ARA Internet (INTERNET)
S6NRA Apps (APPS)
S6NSA Comfort telephony w/ enhanced Smartphone (KOMFORTTELEFONIE MIT ERW. SMARTPHON)
S6S4A Language version Swedish (SPRACHVERSION SCHWEDISCH)
S6UHA Traffic Information (TRAFFIC INFORMATION)
S609A Navigation system Professional (NAVIGATIONSSYSTEM PROFESSIONAL)
S610A Head-up display (HEAD-UP DISPLAY)
S688A Harman/Kardon surround sound system (HARMAN/KARDON SURROUND SOUND SYSTEM)
S698A Area-Code 2 for DVD (AREA-CODE 2)
S7MAA Competition package (COMPETITION PAKET)
S7MEA M Drivers Package (M DRIVERS PACKAGE)
S754A M Rear spoiler (M HECKSPOILER)
S761A Individual sunshade glazing (INDIVIDUAL SONNENSCHUTZVERGLASUNG)
S8KAA Dummy-SALAPA (OELWARTUNGSINT. 30.000KM/24MONATE)
S8SMA Car ident. number visible from outside (FAHRGESTELLNUMMER,V.AUSSEN SICHTBAR)
S8TFA Active pedestrian protection (AKTIVER FUSSGAENGERSCHUTZ.)
S8TGA Thiefproofing device (DIEBSTAHLSICHERUNG)
S8THA Road sign detection (SPEED LIMIT INFO)
S8V1A Information plate (HINWEISSCHILD NCAP)
S850A Dummy-SALAPA (ZUSAETZL. TANKFUELLUNG EXPORT)
S877A Omission of non-combined operation (UEBERKREUZBEDIENUNG ENTFALL)
S885A On-board literature, Swedish (SCHWEDISCH / BORDLITERATUR)

[C320]

Originally Posted by M5theonlyone

I've seen it and looks as if the owner was parking it anywhere, not an option with these and yes possibly missing an oil change not wise.

Thanks - yeah aware of the bodywork and as you say the tyre choice isn’t great, indicative of someone trying to run it on a budget! I though it was odd regarding the service too, would have thought it should have had a service by now. Even stranger is that the BMW service site suggests it has an active service pack, so why wouldn’t you service it???

[C320]

Originally Posted by schrickm5

Mine is a CP, I have the black 343’s, I have a tow hook that folds away! Like I’m ever going to use it.

Uber rare option on the M5, useful for me as I have a tow bar mount bike rack

[OneExtra]

Originally Posted by C320

Thanks - yeah aware of the bodywork and as you say the tyre choice isn’t great, indicative of someone trying to run it on a budget! I though it was odd regarding the service too, would have thought it should have had a service by now. Even stranger is that the BMW service site suggests it has an active service pack, so why wouldn’t you service it???

Personally I would give it a miss, no shortage of nice cars if you wait patiently

[C320]

Originally Posted by OneExtra

Personally I would give it a miss, no shortage of nice cars if you wait patiently

Totally agree. It’s a nice colour combination and it’s keenly priced. If it’s still around when I get back in just over a week I may take a look as I think there could be a deal to be had. A full detail / paint correction could see it looking mint. The tyres and possible general lack of care during ownership are more of a concern.

There’s a beautiful 66 plate CP car at TH Boler at the mo that ticks lots of boxes. Even has Surround View and B&O audio. It’s just too far out of budget (especially for a non BMW AUC) for even my man maths to allow it to work

[C320]

Originally Posted by M5theonlyone

I've seen it and looks as if the owner was parking it anywhere, not an option with these and yes possibly missing an oil change not wise.

Thanks M5theonlyone, out if interest, what was the interior like? I know that the drivers bolster can wear badly. If the rest of the car hasn’t been looked after I’d expect that Silverstone interior to look pretty poor too.

The lack of service and the poor choice of tyres are the biggest concern (I’m confident that the bodywork can be addressed).

[OneExtra]

Originally Posted by C320

Totally agree. It’s a nice colour combination and it’s keenly priced. If it’s still around when I get back in just over a week I may take a look as I think there could be a deal to be had. A full detail / paint correction could see it looking mint. The tyres and possible general lack of care during ownership are more of a concern.

There’s a beautiful 66 plate CP car at TH Boler at the mo that ticks lots of boxes. Even has Surround View and B&O audio. It’s just too far out of budget (especially for a non BMW AUC) for even my man maths to allow it to work

Non BMW AUC wouldn't bother me as its still under BMW warranty

[C320]

Originally Posted by OneExtra

Non BMW AUC wouldn't bother me as its still under BMW warranty

Very true but if it was an AUC it would have 12 months warranty. To compare with other vehicles I need to incorporate the cost of extending the BMW warranty into my total cost / budget so factoring circa £1,400 for the first year.

[OneExtra]

Originally Posted by C320

Totally agree. It’s a nice colour combination and it’s keenly priced. If it’s still around when I get back in just over a week I may take a look as I think there could be a deal to be had. A full detail / paint correction could see it looking mint. The tyres and possible general lack of care during ownership are more of a concern.

There’s a beautiful 66 plate CP car at TH Boler at the mo that ticks lots of boxes. Even has Surround View and B&O audio. It’s just too far out of budget (especially for a non BMW AUC) for even my man maths to allow it to work

100% the same as my car except I have M Carbon interior and 11,000 miles

I paid £45,000 in June last year

Cars with this spec will be easier to sell in later years

You wont find many cars with this spec maybe 2%

I would be down there if you are serious about a good M5

Given they sell very premium cars I wouldn't have an issue buying from them

[OneExtra]

Originally Posted by C320

Very true but if it was an AUC it would have 12 months warranty. To compare with other vehicles I need to incorporate the cost of extending the BMW warranty into my total cost / budget so factoring circa £1,400 for the first year.

Negotiate that into the deal,